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This might be a bit premature, and I don’t mean to get everyone’s tongues wagging, but the owner of the Cadillac agency where I bought my XLR will be going to the first showing of all the V series Cadillac's in Jacksonville on the weekend of the Super Bowl. He has been assured that the new XLR-V will be there and will have all the particulars on the 8th of February when he returns. Everyone is starting to get bits and pieces, I only hope I can add something significant to this post at that time. Fingers crossed
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Xlr-v Additional Information

WELL THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW!!!! Especially since I live in Jacksonville and know the dealer where I'll bet the XLR-V will be hidden.

I guess I'll have to do some "recon" with the General Sales Mgr and see if it's true. THEN I can get my digital out and snap some closeups.

Don't worry the cost won't be TOO much for copies. I just need enough to pay for my XLR-V when it comes in.

BY THE WAY--- If you haven't seen it already, see if you can turn up a copy of the January ROAD AND TRACK Magazine.

On page 35 they printed the following information:

"THE STS AND XLR ARE SUPERCHARGED VERSIONS OF THE 4.6 LITER NORTHSTAR V-8 TO PROVIDE UPWARD OF 380 BHP. NOT QUITE AS MANY AS THE CTS-V, THESE NEW VERSIONS WILL STRESS REFINEMENT AND, AS A RESULT, WILL USE TAP-SHIFT 5 SPEED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS IN LIEU OF A 6 SPEED MANUAL. BOTH THE STS AND THE XLR GET THE FULL V EXTERIOR TREATMENT, INCLUDING A LOWERED RIDE HEIGHT, LARGER WHEELS AND TIRES AND MORE AGGRESSIVE MESH GRILLES AND EXTRA DUCTING."



 

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All I can say is if they want to keep my interest, they will need more than 380 horses. I like the XLR, however it's a bit anemic in the horsepower department.

I was hoping for something a bit better than that.
 
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Hey XLR-1 FL,
I would give anything to be you for a month, but I'm not paying your bills...........you really have the inside track. I would look for the inconspicious BIG white tents near some of the major hotels or fair grounds, if you can't get any information from your local Caddy dealer.

I'm really sad to hear about the HP. The least they could do is give us 400-425 so we can kick some MB's butt's. I don't think I'd buy the new one with such little HP. Maybe I'll just buy a Cobra............and that will be that. (Mustang........that it.
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Gm Press Release

FOR RELEASE: 2005-01-10

2006 Cadillac STS -V: Supercharged Elegance




New 440-horsepower Supercharged Northstar V-8 Engine
New Hydra-Matic Six-Speed Automatic Transmission
Chassis Tuned for the Track or Autobahn
Exterior Design Combines Elegance, Performance, Functionality
Leather-Wrapped, Performance-Refined Interior
DETROIT – The 2006 Cadillac STS-V is General Motors’ most intense expression of Cadillac power and performance yet, and the luxury nameplate’s latest offering in its growing family of high-performance V-Series vehicles.

The STS-V carries all the craftsmanship and sophistication of its STS sibling, but does so at an entirely different level. Designed for everyday driving, the STS-V has been developed to deliver supercharged, rear-drive performance with an elegant design statement that is unmistakably Cadillac.

At the heart of the STS-V is a new, 4.4-liter version of the Northstar engine outfitted with a positive displacement intercooled supercharger. The dual overhead cam (DOHC) V-8 engine delivers the highest horsepower rating of any production Cadillac engine to date.

Called the Northstar V-8 SC (supercharged), the engine produces 440 horsepower (328 kW) at 6400 rpm and 430 lb.-ft. (583 Nm) of torque at 3600 rpm (power and torque figures estimated) – and the engine’s power is underscored by its ability to deliver 90 percent of its peak torque between 2200 and 6000 rpm. Vehicle redline is 6700 rpm.

The Northstar V-8 SC generates 120 horsepower (90kW) and 115 lb.-ft. (156 Nm) of torque more than its naturally aspirated counterpart, while its specific output of 100-horsepower-per-liter makes it one of the world’s highest specific output production V-8 engines.

However, the Northstar V-8 SC used in the STS-V is more than just power and torque. The DOHC engine includes variable valve timing that enables outstanding top-end performance while maintaining the expected refinement and quality associated with a luxury marque.

The aggressive torque curve enabled by the choice of a supercharged engine gives the STS-V acceleration capable of placing it firmly in the under-5-second-club for 0-to-60 time. The refined shift feel is enabled by careful electronic calibration of both the engine and transmission. During shifts, power is instantaneously lowered, then ramped back up carefully to make gear changes virtually unnoticeable.

The Northstar V-8 SC is mated to the all-new Hydra-Matic 6L80 six-speed automatic transmission – the first use of GM’s new six-speed automatic. The 6L80 – the only transmission offered on the STS-V – is one of the most technologically advanced automatic transmissions in the industry, using clutch-to-clutch operation and an advanced integrated 32-bit transmission controller to deliver smooth and precise shifts.

The 6L80 also incorporates a host of advanced driving enhancement features, including advanced Performance Algorithm Shifting (PAS) and Driver Shift Control (DSC). PAS lets the electronic transmission controller override the automatic gear selection during closed throttle high lateral acceleration maneuvers, rapidly downshifting with the release of the torque converter clutch for smooth powering up when the throttle is reopened. Driver Shift Control allows the driver to sequentially shift gears manually via the gearshift lever.

The STS-V has been tuned for performance on virtually every road condition and environment including GM’s all-new Milford Road Course facility and the Nordschleiffe (North Course) at Nürburgring.

As a result of this extensive development, the vehicle has track-capable acceleration, braking and cornering abilities. This is due, in part, to increased tire sizes (P255/45R18 front, P275/40R19 rear); increased brake rotor diameters, larger pad areas, and larger calipers; increased stiffness stabilizer bars and suspension springs; a faster steering ratio; and chassis tuning aimed at delivering high performance without punishing the driver.

Exterior elements on the STS-V enable higher-performance capabilities; yet express the sophisticated elegance associated with the STS name. Exterior refinements include:

A larger, polished stainless steel wire mesh front grille that enables the required additional airflow for engine heat dissipation. The wire mesh grille not only signifies the sedan as a V-series, but is also a heritage cue – wire mesh grilles were applied on the Cadillac V-16, the standard bearer of luxury and performance in the 1930s;
A new, lower front fascia that incorporates a larger lower grille (also wire mesh) for increased cooling capability; brake ducts for front caliper and rotor cooling; and splitter to counteract lift created by larger grille openings;
A new lower rear fascia that facilitates smooth airflow under the vehicle for improved cooling;
Lower rockers that visually bridge the lowered front and rear fascias;
A specific, fluidly sculpted hood designed to provide space for the engine’s supercharger;
Ten-spoke, flangeless, painted aluminum alloy wheels that assist in brake cooling. Front wheels are 18 x 8.5 inches; rear wheels are 19 x 9.5 inches;
A higher, more rearward-positioned rear spoiler that enables balanced aerodynamic downforce with the front splitter; and
V- series badging prominently displayed on the vehicle’s rear decklid and front doors along with “Supercharged” block lettering on the doors.
The interior of the STS-V reflects craftsmanship with the addition of more leather-wrapped surfaces to promote a high-quality, tactile feel and distinctive, crafted appearance. Interior refinements include:

Hand-wrapped leather surfaces throughout;
Olive Ash Burl wood appointments;
Kinetic-finished aluminum accents;
Sueded fabric seat inserts;
V -series badging in the instrument cluster, on the instrument panel, and on door sill plates; and
A new Tango Red color accent offering that is applied on seat inserts (front and rear), console, center armrest, lower instrument panel and door mid-sections (front and rear).
 

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Sts-v Performance Specs

Mr. XLR and Rick 1827:

I wonder why the GM PR guys gave Road and Track the wrong scoop on the specs. From my view point it would have been a teriffic opportunity for GM to get national coverage and increase customer the interest with the information you guys provided.

Is anybody going to write Road and Track and clue them in?? I would like to see thier response.



 

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60 Ponies

Hmmm, 60 ponies/less than 20 percent upgrade--they're holding back so as not to compete with the Vette--I bet the 60 HP will cost at least $15,000.00 to $20,000.00....

Makes me want to : :puke

I'm sure the XLR-V will include bigger wheels and tires, whoop-de-la!

Or should we all just be happy that we don't have enough justification to buy the V since its not much more than we have already?

:lol :yesnod

If they want the Corvette to be faster, then, how about the Z06 is 1st, the XLR-V is 2nd, then the std. Vette 3rd, with the std. XLR being 4th. Why does the XLR-V have to be slower than the base or convertible Vette (if its even out yet...)?
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What?

The V is going to have 440 HP. That is a big boost over the standard XLR and 40 more than the standard vet. Remember, only the Z06 has 500HP and that does not come in convertable--Hard top only.

I bet that 440 is about as much as they want to go in a roadster. I owned a 2000 vet convertible. I loved the car, but it was a little rough around the edges. It came standard with 350HP and I bumped that to 375. That was a lot of power and would throw you back in the seat. Others (like Ferrari) that make high hp numbers have very little torque and are boring to drive except a very high speed. This is going to be a very torquey engine that should be a blast off the line.
 

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Now I'm confused...

Rick- your article describes the STS-V with 440hp, right? :thumbs

XLR I FLs post below has some copied text that says the XLR is slated for 380hp. :yawn As mswaim points out, if true, this small power increase hardly seem worth the effort.

What do we really know? :confused
 
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Patience everyone...............We will get the real skinny on the HP the first week of February from Florida. I for one will not trade up for 60 HP. I think I'll put my finger down my throat.
 

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Rick- your article describes the STS-V with 440hp, right? :thumbs

XLR I FLs post below has some copied text that says the XLR is slated for 380hp. :yawn As mswaim points out, if true, this small power increase hardly seem worth the effort.

What do we really know? :confused

It is my understanding from my dealer that the STS-V and the XLR-V will have the same engine. This has also been widely reported in the auto-mags. Why would GM develope two different engines ? That does not make much sense to me.
 
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