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The Bowling Green Assembly web site has posted the production numbers for 07. 1,505 XLR and 410 V's. Look at the web site and it gives you the colors break down. Interesting numbers!! 07 had about a third of the cars built as compared to 04, 05, and 06!
 

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The web site: http://www.bowlinggreenassemblyplant.com/ Enter into the site. See the blue XLR? Pass your mouse over it to get a menu. Click on "History / car info". You'll see a headings of : 2004 options, 2005 options and the same for 06 and 07. Click on the year you want. That will give the production numbers.
 

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PBG, Thanks cool info. I also fopund infop on the XLR premium care program site. Tons of XLR items for slae there too. Jim f
 

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I think this is question number one for the Rendezvous meeting with the GM execs. At this rate production will be down to zero by 2009. How can GM afford to keep this model alive when producing only 1500 vehicles? They're either going to have to figure out how to market and sell the XLR or it will be doomed to go out of existence.
 

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Initially the Chairman and CEO of GM said that the XLR wasn't being produced to compete or take market share away from it's competition.

Now I agree that the numbers are getting smaller and they need to cover their costs at a minimum. So the question will be (I think) what is the lowest production they will make in a given year.

They readily agree that the XLR does provide some benefit to overall Cadillac sales due to it's state-of-the-art technology. I have no idea how you measure that though.

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I'm not sure if I am miss-reading some of this info, but I thought the Victory Red Edition for 07 only came with an ebony interior. But the BG info shows all 250 with the shale interior. If this is wrong, how valid is the rest of the info?
 

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I think that much of the cost is absorbed by the shared build and components used for the XLR within the BG plant. I am sure that Cadillac does not view the XLR as a profit center.

More than likely it is viewed as a "halo" car. That is to showcase technology and design which then is used to draw folks in to Cadillac to whom that appeals to. These folks may not buy an XLR but might consider an STS, DTS, CTS or any of the "V" series models and including Escalade.

Just my two cents. :flag

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I'm not sure if I am miss-reading some of this info, but I thought the Victory Red Edition for 07 only came with an ebony interior. But the BG info shows all 250 with the shale interior. If this is wrong, how valid is the rest of the info?
I have a victory red with ebony so theres at least one with ebony interior
 

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...I would conclude. The numbers would explain the lack of improvements or changes during the run so far. No vehicle can continue in production selling 3000 per year, except perhaps Bentley. It would also make me cautious about bringing the car in for service as, most likely, the mechanics rarely see an XLR to learn how to repar its particular problems (top, suspension, etc.).

I doubt that we'll see a re-design in 2010. And, if I'm correct, it will be a travesty for both those who own one and those who enjoy seeing them. It is the sharpest production vehicle on the road today. GM should learn how to market it!

Hey, perhaps if some of the superfluous gadgets were eliminated, say the big engine in favor of a small block V8, the cooled seats, fancy suspension, adaptive cruise control, etc., and sell it for $55-60,000, in line with the Lexus, you'd see many more of them. I think $80,000 is a bit too much for ANY vehicle. Oh well, its apparently good-by to this great car. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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"Hey, perhaps if some of the superfluous gadgets were eliminated, say the big engine in favor of a small block V8,"

WHAT!!!!!

The the most fun part of this car! The supercharged V8!!! It's GREAT!
 

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Eliminat the gadgets?? The vette is several thousands less with better gadgets
What does this car have that is superior to the vette, besides the wrapper?
They could produce it for a whole lot less if they chose to.

wait a sec....they already took away the ACC, the best gadget of all, on the 100k model!!!
 
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Where trying to get more bells and whistles and you want to take stuff out of the car? Mine was 100K and is worth every penny. There's got to be a Nisson out there just for you with no gadgets.
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...I would conclude. The numbers would explain the lack of improvements or changes during the run so far. No vehicle can continue in production selling 3000 per year, except perhaps Bentley. It would also make me cautious about bringing the car in for service as, most likely, the mechanics rarely see an XLR to learn how to repar its particular problems (top, suspension, etc.).

I doubt that we'll see a re-design in 2010. And, if I'm correct, it will be a travesty for both those who own one and those who enjoy seeing them. It is the sharpest production vehicle on the road today. GM should learn how to market it!

Hey, perhaps if some of the superfluous gadgets were eliminated, say the big engine in favor of a small block V8, the cooled seats, fancy suspension, adaptive cruise control, etc., and sell it for $55-60,000, in line with the Lexus, you'd see many more of them. I think $80,000 is a bit too much for ANY vehicle. Oh well, its apparently good-by to this great car. Hope I'm wrong.
 

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Funny you say that. I have a NISSAN, too! Murano for the Winter, messy driving. Not a bad car, but somewhat cheaply made for $40,000. Anyway, to tell you the truth...the best deal Cadillac has...and will soon have, should the he '08 CTS, Seen the photos, read the details. Incredible electronics, 5.1 surround, MP3, Bluetooth etc. Great looks. Very affordable price. What a Cadillac should be. The CTS I drive will out run the non-V XLR. I was actually disappointed when I drove the XLR as it was clearly not as quick. Most importantly, it did not "feel" $80,000, so I decided against the purchase. Waited for improvements; smaller diameter steering wheel, MP3, etc. Of course, nothing!

Corvette say you guys? Has 95% of the XLR gadgetry content with far superior performance. World class. Chevy sells everyone they build. Excellent depreciation (is that an oxymoron?). It seems like Toyota got their act together. Although they build some of the uglyist vehicles on the planet, their all priced competively. Look at the Lexus roadster (SC 4-whatever). Ugly as sin, but priced far below both the SL & XLR, probably built far better, and they sell everone they build. Gadgets are great...especially at $80,000/$100,000. But SELLING the car is more important...unless owners are looking forward to pinning a "classic" license plate on their XLRs.
 

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Well everybody has the issues corrrect BUT like Bob (standby) I say there is some value to me to have a car that you just don't see on the road in mass every day and that you receive a TON of unsolicited compliments about.

Thats why I think the real question to ask the BIG GUYS is what is the minimum run they will make.

I am still in favor of a Just-In-Time ordering system;
Internet -> GM Factory->Manufacturing->Delivery/Shipping-> Customer Delivery Door to Door.

They could keep the cost down and tailor the car to the customer --color--exterior interior motor etc and deliver it in half the time.

I just a thought.



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Well everybody has the issues corrrect BUT like Bob (standby) I say there is some value to me to have a car that you just don't see on the road in mass every day and that you receive a TON of unsolicited compliments about.

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that's the whole catch 22
you don't see many on the road because most people recgonize it to be overpriced......
it's not that they don't like them
 

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that's the whole catch 22
you don't see many on the road because most people recgonize it to be overpriced......
it's not that they don't like them
you got to pay to play. do care what the gas mileage is or how much gas costs to run this car? me, NO
 

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that's the whole catch 22
you don't see many on the road because most people recgonize it to be overpriced......
it's not that they don't like them
I just want to say that I don't agree that MOST people recognize the car as being overpriced. First of all, most people cannot afford them. And, I don't think that most people even know what they cost as that is usually one of the first questions that I am asked .... also, :iagree with Standby ... and how do you put a price on class, comfort and style. Those of us who have chosen to own an XLR could have easily chosen the Corvette, Mustang or whatever .... but we didn't .... because there is nothing like our XLR out there. :rant
 

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I just want to say that I don't agree that MOST people recognize the car as being overpriced. First of all, most people cannot afford them. And, I don't think that most people even know what they cost as that is usually one of the first questions that I am asked .... also, :iagree with Standby ... and how do you put a price on class, comfort and style. Those of us who have chosen to own an XLR could have easily chosen the Corvette, Mustang or whatever .... but we didn't .... because there is nothing like our XLR out there. :rant
don't get me wrong....I paid 80k for an XLR and then 100k for my V two years later!
I had to have them for the uniqueness it offers and that's very hard to put a price on,
but I feel that price is a strong factor in keeping it unique.
however, materially, mechanically, workmanship, etc. there is not much more there that the vette dosen't have
..........at a much more realistic price.
Cadillac advertisment (lack of) is the second factor in keeping it unique!
 

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don't get me wrong....I paid 80k for an XLR and then 100k for my V two years later!
I had to have them for the uniqueness it offers and that's very hard to put a price on,
but I feel that price is a strong factor in keeping it unique.
however, materially, mechanically, workmanship, etc. there is not much more there that the vette dosen't have
..........at a much more realistic price.
Cadillac advertisment (lack of) is the second factor in keeping it unique!
Then we agree - we pay and like the uniqueness .... and the rest is moot!:cheers
 
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