Open letter to members & non-members

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Discussion Starter · Sep 22, 2005

Having had some issues with the paint department at Allen Cadillac and GM, I believe that I have taken a very negative approach with my friends at this dealership and that in dealing with these issues I should have kept them private, and if not private, at least I shouldn’t have bashed Allen Cadillac in general. That was not my intent. As you all know, I had issues with the paint department and this should have been between Allen Cadillac and me.

The other issue is the hot console and that should be between GM, and me, but I didn’t think I was getting enough help locally to get to the bottom of this problem.

Officially, GM has said that they are aware of this problem and at present; do not have a fix that works.

Summing up……………I always felt that Allen Cadillac has gone the extra mile for me, unfortunately the extra mile was a bit of a bumpy road when issues reared it’s ugly head with the repairing of my vehicle that was in an accident. I took it personally, but didn’t really see the extra mile they where going to satisfy me.

To put things in a better light, their front door is excellent, their service has been great and not realizing it, their people in service have tried their best to solve my problems. I did a lot of venting here because I could, what I should have done was to stop acting so immature and talk with Scott Allen, not post my complaints here.

Rita, Please stay away from New Orleans, they have had enough. God bless them

Sometimes you just don’t see the forest for the trees.

Standby

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jackewells

· #2 · Sep 22, 2005

Good post, Bob................ :flag

mswaim

· #3 · Sep 22, 2005 (Edited)

Sounds like someone's dealership put someone in their place. I guess it's true, some of our dealers DO read these forums.

Looks like someone's attorney thought a bit of damage control was required before moving ahead with the "lemon law" attack.

1_XLR

· #4 · Sep 22, 2005

couldn't help but notice how all that complaining had stopped so abruptly last week. :rant

Much appreciated too.

.........now, about those f'n emocons......

aviator

· #5 · Sep 22, 2005 (Edited)

Standby....

....thanks. Here's wunna dese --> :thumbs

Now about Hurrican Rita -- she's heading for my crib. :cuss

mswaim

· #6 · Sep 22, 2005

1_XLR said:
couldn't help but notice how all that complaining had stopped so abruptly last week. :rant

Much appreciated too.

.........now, about those f'n emocons......

Can't help but notice the font used in the letter differs from the forum standard, not to mention the writing style is much different than we are used to seeing from Bob's own hand.

Someone's lemon law attorney is earning their money.............

G

Discussion Starter · #7 · Sep 22, 2005

Sorry about the direction, but I think any area could take it better than N.O. I lived in Jersey most of my young life and we went through a lot of these storms and survived because we got away from the shore area. Just five miles inland makes a world of difference

aviator said:
....thanks. Here's wunna dese --> :thumbs

Now about Hurrican Rita -- she's heading for my crib. :cuss

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Discussion Starter · #8 · Sep 22, 2005

FYI mswaim,

The post you are referring to, was done in Times New Roman Pt 2 in Microsoft Word and was done on my own merit without the help of anyone, nor prompted by anyone, except for spell check & grammar corrections to make sure my post was correct in every way..

I do want to thank you for deciding that this was done by a lawyer, however most lawyers have their secretaries do their letter writing after they compose it and make corrections in spelling and grammar.

You never cease to amaze me in your negativity, at least I was man enough to own up to my lack of integrity in blasting Allen Cadillac instead of GM, and it was my idea to post this open letter.

This post was done in Black Chancery, just so you get it right this time.

mswaim said:
Sounds like someone's dealership put someone in their place. I guess it's true, some of our dealers DO read these forums.

Looks like someone's attorney thought a bit of damage control was required before moving ahead with the "lemon law" attack.

G

Discussion Starter · #9 · Sep 22, 2005

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Not suprised here either that you would get on the band wagon with mswaim. You want to ask me something, bring it on, but don't make accusations you can't back up or know nothing about.
I see you use fn emocons or smiley's too.

Here's a couple of smiley's for you

1_XLR said:
couldn't help but notice how all that complaining had stopped so abruptly last week. :rant

Much appreciated too.

.........now, about those f'n emocons......

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Quixotic

· #10 · Sep 22, 2005

Hey, let's just agree we all own one of the sweetest cars on the road today. It really doesn't matter what color, what options, what aftermarket, what state we live in or what dealer sold it to us. Let's just embrace the fact that we are some of the very few who can enjoy these wonderful cars.

1_XLR

· #11 · Sep 22, 2005

mswaim said:
the writing style is much different than we are used to seeing from Bob's own hand..............

They must not make an emocon with rosy red lips attached to a big 'ol yellow ass!!

mswaim

· #12 · Sep 22, 2005

standby said:
FYI mswaim,

The post you are referring to, was done in Times New Roman Pt 2 in Microsoft Word and was done on my own merit without the help of anyone, nor prompted by anyone, except for spell check & grammar corrections to make sure my post was correct in every way..

I do want to thank you for deciding that this was done by a lawyer, however most lawyers have their secretaries do their letter writing after they compose it and make corrections in spelling and grammar.

You never cease to amaze me in your negativity, at least I was man enough to own up to my lack of integrity in blasting Allen Cadillac instead of GM, and it was my idea to post this open letter.

This post was done in Black Chancery, just so you get it right this time.

Gee Bob, all I can say is for a man of your advanced age (and supposed maturity) you seem to stay very busy owning up to your "lack of integrity". Not to mention your lack of self-control, lack of automotive knowledge and a general lack of common sense.

You really need to stop and think a bit before you post. So far you have provided miss-information on numerous occasions, posting information that is just plain false, misleading and otherwise void of any truth.

This forum has slowly become the Standby playground, complete with your idiotic and childish Emoticons and childish rantings about GM products, Allen Cadillac, etc.

Anyone who disagrees with you is immediately attacked in open forum and branded as your enemy.

1) It's not my fault you tried to convince the XLR owners of the world that they could rely on their radar-assisted cruise controls to avoid collisions.

2) It's not my fault you have absolutely no knowledge concerning the differences between BuyBacks and the California Lemon Law.

3) It's not my fault you mistakenly posted that all Lemoned vehicles are sent back to the factory to be crushed.

I could post a few more of your mistakes, but why bother? The fact you felt compelled to post an open letter of apology further proves the existence of your destructive personality and its effect on this community.

If you are going to be honest, be honest. You didn't post that letter because you felt the need to magnanimously extend an olive branch to Scott Allen and his dealership. Something else prompted that letter, however the truth will be hard to pry from someone who lacks integrity, right?

Please, put me back on your Ignore list...............

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1_XLR

· #13 · Sep 22, 2005

standby said:
Not suprised here either that you would get on the band wagon with mswaim. You want to ask me something, bring it on, but don't make accusations you can't back up or know nothing about.
I see you use fn emocons or smiley's too.

Here's a couple of smiley's for you

I wouldn't consider it a band wagon, I feel comfortable to comment when I have an opinion on this forum, and since it was an "open letter"....I made a simple observation, and passed along my appreciation, even though I didn't expect you would get it, my being on your ignore list and all.

I've nothing to ask you, or I would. We have had discussion before about your childish and obnoxious smileys.....you didn't get it then, so keep posting them.

mswaim

· #14 · Sep 22, 2005

Quixotic said:
Hey, let's just agree we all own one of the sweetest cars on the road today. It really doesn't matter what color, what options, what aftermarket, what state we live in or what dealer sold it to us. Let's just embrace the fact that we are some of the very few who can enjoy these wonderful cars.

Normally my friend I would agree with you, however at some point you have to question the motivation.

On a brighter note, if you drive by Allen Cadillac you will be one of the few who will understand the meaning of the new marquee that reads -

Allen Cadillac = 1

Standby = 0 :cry

upstate

· #15 · Sep 23, 2005

Standby I find it ammusing you talk about all the negitivity on this forum when you have driven a lot of it. Glad to have you here and posting as I enjoy hearing from all my fellow XLR owners. Actually this site is sometimes to dead when I see a day or two go by with no new posts. Lets all talk a little more, and a little more acurate. When I had an 05 mustang that site was buzzing all the time, sometimes you would see 80 posts a day or more. I know the mustang is in the hands of 190K per year compaired to 5k but I enjoy getting inside scoop on the car. With the mustang web site factory workers and ford management would add to the info and I would tell my dealer info way before he knew if he ever did. Anyways I would really like to hear the final out come of standbys car.

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Discussion Starter · #16 · Sep 23, 2005

Upstate,
I appreciate your comments whether in my favor or not. I'm going to ignore the childish comments from two of our members and move on..
When I post information, I research and test it to the best of my ability, some things I state are hear say or what's been told to me.
Ya see mswaim is an X cop and is suspicious of everything everyone says and is a very jealous person. I just made a fool out of mswaim and notice how he attacks and tells lies just to try and make me look bad. As far as the negativity, I apologized in the open letter, now it's mswaim's turn for his BS.
Simply put? I meet with my lawyer next Wednesday to start Lemon Law proceedures, and will not be bringing anyone up to date until it is over. I will be man enough to put the result on this site regarless of the out come.
I think we should have a check of who leases, has the pink slip, and who has monster payments. I for one have my pink slip from day one.

upstate said:
Anyways I would really like to hear the final out come of standbys car.

BUDSVET

· #17 · Sep 23, 2005

I agree with you STANDBY. Cut the BS and move on. good luck with GM.. :jester :flag :flag

1_XLR

· #18 · Sep 23, 2005

standby said:
As far as the negativity, I apologized in the open letter,

And there's the whole point, Bob, there is no apology to anyone in your 'open letter',
......it was intended to suck up to Allen Cadillac and a few of us decided to call you on it.

It was a very wise thing to do, as was suggested all along on this forum,
you will get much further with a mature, professional approach.
I hope you're satisfied with the results

mswaim

· #19 · Sep 23, 2005

standby said:
Upstate,
I appreciate your comments whether in my favor or not. I'm going to ignore the childish comments from two of our members and move on..
When I post information, I research and test it to the best of my ability, some things I state are hear say or what's been told to me.
Ya see mswaim is an X cop and is suspicious of everything everyone says and is a very jealous person. I just made a fool out of mswaim and notice how he attacks and tells lies just to try and make me look bad. As far as the negativity, I apologized in the open letter, now it's mswaim's turn for his BS.
Simply put? I meet with my lawyer next Wednesday to start Lemon Law proceedures, and will not be bringing anyone up to date until it is over. I will be man enough to put the result on this site regarless of the out come.
I think we should have a check of who leases, has the pink slip, and who has monster payments. I for one have my pink slip from day one.

Based on the level of contempt in your response I would wager to say I hit very close to home with my earlier statements.

Wise not to discuss the pending litigation any further, it's going to be tough enough for your attorney to explain the dozens of negative posts the oppposing counsel has already printed out. Somehow I don't think one ass-kissing letter will out-weigh the damage you have already caused with your threatening posts.

Poor Bob. You openly admit on a public forum that you lack the one thing no one can take from you nor fault you for possessing - Integrity. Those who lack integrity normally come up short in the Values and Honor department too.

Jealous of you? Bob, get over yourself - you live in a 1,500 sq. ft. condo in LA saddled with a 1st and a 2nd.

Comic relief Bob - That's your real strength here - comic relief.

I apologize to the membership in advance for this bit of a low-point, but sometimes you just have to take a stand.

jackewells

· #20 · Sep 23, 2005

Enough of this.....Lets evervbody drop it. :flag

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