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Hey guys, I am shopping for a car and I was hoping you could help me here.
Now my dad was in the dealership and he loves the xlr. However, I would like him to get the xlr-v because it just seems more exclusive. Plus all that extra power can't hurt. Now I am concerned about a few things. First off, its a Cadillac, and I do recall cadillac having issues. Now they have appeared to cleaned up their act greatly but I was wondering if problems still linger... Another one is, its an american car and I wondered how it handled in comparison to the competition. Now I here are the other cars I was considering getting him.

1. BMW M6
2. Jaguar XK Coupe
3. Aston Martin V8 Vantage

I was hoping you guys could offer some input on how the xlr or the xlr-v stands in comparison to these cars. Also would the cars I'm listing be too powerful for an 83 year old man? I would get me dad something a bit more powerful like a Vanquish S but I am worried about the consequences.
 
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There are many posts on tis site concerning the XLR and the XLR-V. I have a V and it's the most assume car I have ever had, as members know, I call it my Gorilla in a tuxedo which says it all. Just this past week I took it up to 158 mph I couldn't tell the difference between 40 mph and 158. It was like a rock, glued to the road. I would do it again in an instant. If you're unaware, this gorilla does 0-60 in 4.3 and that's quick. My age? 72
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First off, its a Cadillac, and I do recall cadillac having issues.
Seven Cadillacs here and no "issues".

You want to talk about issues? Buy the Ford..oh, I mean Jag.

You will love the BMW if great service and a rough ride is what you are after. I've had 5 Bimmers and loved them all. I just don't care for their new styling direction with that "bustle" on the back end - but that's just my convoluted sense of aesthetics.

The Aston...I have no idea. Looks like a lot of $$ for a car that's not that fast.
 

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Here is a thread from a couple of months ago that compares the other Ford, I mean Aston Martin :glol

http://www.xlrforum.com/showthread.php?t=1267

The only Caddy I've had issues with was the German made one, the Catera, everthing electronic on that car broke at least twice. Great service department though, thats what made me stick with the brand.
 

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Having had the opportunity to drive an Aston Martin Vantage I can say with complete certainty - you will not be disappointed. It is well made, and is a cut above most of the vehicles you listed.

The thread posted by JetBoy is informative, however almost every word is cut/pasted from a dozen sources and not supported by first-hand experience. it really boils down to what you prefer, ie, power, luxury, overall performance or just plain status symbol. No matter where you pull information from it will be one-sided and subject to debate from all sides.

I have yet to see any supporting information to show the XLR-V can attain a 0-60 time of 4.3 seconds. The only one I've laid eyes on and driven cannot hit that mark, Hell, even Cadillac rates it lower than that and NO one is going to pump it up more than its manufacturer.

If you really want to please your dad, ask him - afterall: is he to accept your choice or make one on his own based on 83 years of life experience?????
 

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Having had the opportunity to drive an Aston Martin Vantage I can say with complete certainty - you will not be disappointed. It is well made, and is a cut above most of the vehicles you listed.

The thread posted by JetBoy is informative, however almost every word is cut/pasted from a dozen sources and not supported by first-hand experience. it really boils down to what you prefer, ie, power, luxury, overall performance or just plain status symbol. No matter where you pull information from it will be one-sided and subject to debate from all sides.

I have yet to see any supporting information to show the XLR-V can attain a 0-60 time of 4.3 seconds. The only one I've laid eyes on and driven cannot hit that mark, Hell, even Cadillac rates it lower than that and NO one is going to pump it up more than its manufacturer.

If you really want to please your dad, ask him - afterall: is he to accept your choice or make one on his own based on 83 years of life experience?????
Hi Mswaim, here`s the info you looking for!!!!
Road&Track June 2006 Road-Test XLR V page 85
0-60 4.3 sec
0-100 10.4 sec
Quarter mile 12.7 @ 111.8

As you know I had the choice to drive Bob`s V last week and it really runs. The Z06 will walk away from the V but not the C6. I think with 10 k miles on it`s odo the V will be able to do the 0-60 in the very low 4s.

I love the V only thing I dislike is the speedlimiter at 158 mph, I hope the export-model doesn`t have it so as my XLR which is able to do 179 mph (288 kph)

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cardriver said:
Hey guys, I am shopping for a car and I was hoping you could help me here.
Now my dad was in the dealership and he loves the xlr. However, I would like him to get the xlr-v because it just seems more exclusive. Plus all that extra power can't hurt. Now I am concerned about a few things. First off, its a Cadillac, and I do recall cadillac having issues. Now they have appeared to cleaned up their act greatly but I was wondering if problems still linger... Another one is, its an american car and I wondered how it handled in comparison to the competition. Now I here are the other cars I was considering getting him.

1. BMW M6
2. Jaguar XK Coupe
3. Aston Martin V8 Vantage

I was hoping you guys could offer some input on how the xlr or the xlr-v stands in comparison to these cars. Also would the cars I'm listing be too powerful for an 83 year old man? I would get me dad something a bit more powerful like a Vanquish S but I am worried about the consequences.


Greetings,

First from my point of view I would be happy with any of the cars in my garage. That said, my first choice would be Cadillac's XLR-V. The only car I would compare with the XLR-V and only from a style perspective is the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. I very much like the styling and design of the XLR-V, so much so I rank it over the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. But if I considered all the other attributes of the XLR-V in comparison to the Aston Martin it becomes no contest, with the XLR-V taking the lead.

Lets start with hard top convertible, this feature alone would place the XLR-V in an advance position over the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. Onstar integration, with voice recognition phone and emergency and convenience services. The integration of Heads Up Display, Keyless with Push Button start and no keys holes in the body door panel. I like the overall exterior and interior design. The exterior is exotic and contemporary in Cadillac style. And the interior is clean and modern in its design. Yet, there are wonderful technologies that are integrated into the XLR-V that are easy to use such as the Heads Up Display, My choice would be the XLR-V over its competition.

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harrysxlr said:
Hi Mswaim, here`s the info you looking for!!!!
Road&Track June 2006 Road-Test XLR V page 85
0-60 4.3 sec
0-100 10.4 sec
Quarter mile 12.7 @ 111.8

As you know I had the choice to drive Bob`s V last week and it really runs. The Z06 will walk away from the V but not the C6. I think with 10 k miles on it`s odo the V will be able to do the 0-60 in the very low 4s.

I love the V only thing I dislike is the speedlimiter at 158 mph, I hope the export-model doesn`t have it so as my XLR which is able to do 179 mph (288 kph)

Hans

My experiences tell me different, but it's not worth a lengthy debate. You are talking about a 3800 lbs car with 440/414 hp/tq. It's very fast - but not that fast. Not trying to take anything away from it, but there are limitations in all things and you need more than 440 horses to push that much weight to 60 mph that quickly on the tires and gears (2.56) it's equipped with.
 

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Greetings,

First from my point of view I would be happy with any of the cars in my garage. That said, my first choice would be Cadillac's XLR-V. The only car I would compare with the XLR-V and only from a style perspective is the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. I very much like the styling and design of the XLR-V, so much so I rank it over the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. But if I considered all the other attributes of the XLR-V in comparison to the Aston Martin it becomes no contest, with the XLR-V taking the lead.

Lets start with hard top convertible, this feature alone would place the XLR-V in an advance position over the Aston Martin V8 Vantage. Onstar integration, with voice recognition phone and emergency and convenience services. The integration of Heads Up Display, Keyless with Push Button start and no keys holes in the body door panel. I like the overall exterior and interior design. The exterior is exotic and contemporary in Cadillac style. And the interior is clean and modern in its design. Yet, there are wonderful technologies that are integrated into the XLR-V that are easy to use such as the Heads Up Display, My choice would be the XLR-V over its competition.

JLM
John, you are axactly right, out of these four cars the XLR V would be my choice too.
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My experiences tell me different, but it's not worth a lengthy debate. You are talking about a 3800 lbs car with 440/414 hp/tq. It's very fast - but not that fast. Not trying to take anything away from it, but there are limitations in all things and you need more than 440 horses to push that much weight to 60 mph that quickly on the tires and gears (2.56) it's equipped with.
Marc, I hope they will have the exports here by end of the year, I sure get me one and if I get some 0 - 100 kph (62 mph) in 4.5 I`ll be very happy with this.

As you know I played with the idea to get me a Z06 but after I drove the V last week in the US, I know that`s it. Power and comfort this is what makes (for me) the XLR V the winner. I know the Z06 is faster.

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Hans, you can't go wrong with the XLR-V, it will be a joy to drive on unrestricted roadways as long as they pull off the limiter!! I'm still waiting for a build date on my order, but now we are not sure if we will go ahead with the Z06 or go another direction. I've began modifying the C6 and it responds really well to tuning, new intake and exhaust. I've had the rev limiter increased and the shift points firmed up. I've also added the Z06 spoiler (body paint matched) and a Z51 rear sway bar.
 

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:smash I buy the XLR V. Did you know the XLR had the highest quality car in the industry per the JD Power survey. The XLR was 8 surveys short of being a "valid" sample. 74 surveys were returned and they needed 82. The XLR score was 68. The next best score was 78. Also, when you consider the XLR V's performance 4.6 seconds 0-60, you can't go wrong.
 

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I'm not exactly surprised with your responses. Had I posted this on a BMW forum or an Aston forum, I would certainly hear differently. Now everything you guys have pointed out is valid but here's what I think.
The cadillac is a looker for sure, but there are a few things I don't like. My biggest gripe is probably the tail lights. Something about it looks really cheap.
Of the cars I mentioned, I think the V8 Vantage is the best looking one of the bunch. However, the Vantage would probably get on my dad's nerves because its manual and he isn't accustomed to manuals.
The M6 would probably be one of the most practical. This sounds funny because I think the M6 is a beast. I've sat in the rear seats and I'm six feet tall and those seats are liveable. I took one look at the rear seats in the new XK and didn't even bother trying. I tried to get into the back of a DB9 once but I had to find a place to my legs once the seat went back.
Interestingly enough, no one has yet to mention the Jaguar. I personally think the XK is a more liveable version of the V8 but sadly, it lacks in the looks department in comparison to the Vantage.
But thanks for your input guys I'll be taking comments into consideration when I make the purchase.
 

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cardriver said:
I'm not exactly surprised with your responses. Had I posted this on a BMW forum or an Aston forum, I would certainly hear differently. Now everything you guys have pointed out is valid but here's what I think.
The cadillac is a looker for sure, but there are a few things I don't like. My biggest gripe is probably the tail lights. Something about it looks really cheap.
Of the cars I mentioned, I think the V8 Vantage is the best looking one of the bunch. However, the Vantage would probably get on my dad's nerves because its manual and he isn't accustomed to manuals.
The M6 would probably be one of the most practical. This sounds funny because I think the M6 is a beast. I've sat in the rear seats and I'm six feet tall and those seats are liveable. I took one look at the rear seats in the new XK and didn't even bother trying. I tried to get into the back of a DB9 once but I had to find a place to my legs once the seat went back.
Interestingly enough, no one has yet to mention the Jaguar. I personally think the XK is a more liveable version of the V8 but sadly, it lacks in the looks department in comparison to the Vantage.
But thanks for your input guys I'll be taking comments into consideration when I make the purchase.
Greetings,

Best to you and your decision.

A little background on my preference for Cadillac’s XRL. I purchased a 2005 Silver XLR and for my taste, I would not change a thing on this car from a style perspective. I rank the XLR one of the top three performance luxury roadsters/coupes on the planet. My ranking overall is Cadillac XLR, Aston Martin V8 Vantage, Mercedes-Benz SL550. The Cadillac XLR exhibits the most exotic styling of the group, with the best integrated high tech interior. The Aston Martin V8 Vantage is the most richly styled exterior/interior of the group, but weakest in technology integration. And the Mercedes-Benz is the most racy styled of the group with the best features by far and I would say the best crafted, but for me little emotional connection to its style/design. Any of the cars would be a charm to own, but when you must pick one, my choice would be the XLR for its overall style, design, performance and systems integration of its high featured technologies.

Much of this simply comes down to personal preference in what these cars translate to you. For me, there is an emotional connection with Cadillac’s XLR and Aston Martin V8 Vantage style/design. The styling of these two cars are (exterior/interior) breathtaking, but different in their design approach. The XLR is the most contemporary styled, even futuristic with an expression of the cleanest lines in its exterior design, that communicates an uncompromised purity, as to say door handles and key lock impressions are not welcomed. The interior of the XLR is almost a math equation in line design that visually connects and intersects with its exterior lines. There is a simplicity and complexity about its interior design that ultimately brings about a calming effect within the driving environment. This modern interior design calls for minimal buttons which extends the integration of voice recognition and LCD information touch screen technologies. A design implemented with a relationship to its technologies and features that results in a easy to use driver interface. Cadillac’s XLR on balance is one of the best designed performance luxury, high technology integrated roadsters available. If your requirements define an exotic, highly styled, powerful, high technology integrated, contemporary designed luxury roadster, Cadillac’s XLR is your first choice. Add the V badge to the XLR, and it transforms to a high performance luxury roadster racing to the edge of sports car refinement. Ultimately, the decision is a personal one, but for my requirements in a best in class luxury roadster, the XLR is in the lead position.

Again, best to you and your decision.

JLM
 
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