My 20.00 screen
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Galen. Great job your stealin my thunder here!LOL I have not had a moment to play with it. Ill do that probably in the fall or winter . Let us know how well it works. My big ass bald head is still above the roll bars so I still think I'd need it a bit wider and higher. I want to hear your comment 1st. Especially with no holes for any air flow! jim
Galen. Great job your stealin my thunder here!LOL I have not had a moment to play with it. Ill do that probably in the fall or winter . Let us know how well it works. My big ass bald head is still above the roll bars so I still think I'd need it a bit wider and higher. I want to hear your comment 1st. Especially with no holes for any air flow! jim
seat height
I like my seat way down low. The lower the cooler. But I can't see the curbs, dogs,or little kids. I look like a little old man. I'm flabbergasted at Buick having a freaking camera that they can turn on when in reverse. By gosh there better be one on the mid engine 09's. Did I say mid something? How do I delete that? Oh man, I 'm in trouble now. I swore I wouldn't say anything. Jim I heard that if you elevate the screen a half inch it allows just enough back flow to equal the airflow. But the way it is now, I'd say its just fine. It stops about 65% of the airflow. Like I said before, the biggest downfall is the glare-back.
I like my seat way down low. The lower the cooler. But I can't see the curbs, dogs,or little kids. I look like a little old man. I'm flabbergasted at Buick having a freaking camera that they can turn on when in reverse. By gosh there better be one on the mid engine 09's. Did I say mid something? How do I delete that? Oh man, I 'm in trouble now. I swore I wouldn't say anything. Jim I heard that if you elevate the screen a half inch it allows just enough back flow to equal the airflow. But the way it is now, I'd say its just fine. It stops about 65% of the airflow. Like I said before, the biggest downfall is the glare-back.
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Alabama Windscreen
Galen, looks great................I think I got the better deal; the new Nav Disc is exactly what I needed.
The windscreen is 1/4 smoked lexan scraps I had laying around the garage. I applied the "XLR" by using painter's tape, then spray-glueing a printed out digital photo of the car logo. I razor-cut out the letters, stencil sprayed on silver paint and stripped off the tape while the paint was still wet. It was the long way around getting the logo exact to scale and form. Tie-wraps are laced through four holes drilled as shown. Good idea on the window edging to protect the leather trim.
Unlike the mesh type, it has a little reflection of light at night with on-coming traffic, but you can see out through the rear-view quite well. You can hold your hand up between the head rests and there is absolutely no air turbulance.
Nothing like having a $20.00 windsreen; go spend the $640 you saved on something else. I did.
XLR KEN
Galen, looks great................I think I got the better deal; the new Nav Disc is exactly what I needed.
The windscreen is 1/4 smoked lexan scraps I had laying around the garage. I applied the "XLR" by using painter's tape, then spray-glueing a printed out digital photo of the car logo. I razor-cut out the letters, stencil sprayed on silver paint and stripped off the tape while the paint was still wet. It was the long way around getting the logo exact to scale and form. Tie-wraps are laced through four holes drilled as shown. Good idea on the window edging to protect the leather trim.
Unlike the mesh type, it has a little reflection of light at night with on-coming traffic, but you can see out through the rear-view quite well. You can hold your hand up between the head rests and there is absolutely no air turbulance.
Nothing like having a $20.00 windsreen; go spend the $640 you saved on something else. I did.
XLR KEN
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rufcar, you once mentioned that you wanted a template of a windscreen........is that still true. This design is so simple, I traced it on some drafting paper for reference. I don't know if Galen noticed, but there were two tracings in the paper I wrapped his in when I handed it over. Hope he saved the wrappings..........
Send me a PM and let me know where to mail it and I send you a tracing.
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Galen, outstanding job...and the logo will announce exactly what your drivin'. I was reading old posts trying to figure out who and where everybody is and coming from and saw that you were from the KC area. If you see or hear from Bob Dunham, tell him all is well with his trade in....lucky me. Also, curious as to the year and mileage on your Eldo. I had a gold 88 and green 91 in that style and thought there couldn't be anything sharper than them.OK 20 bucksI did a little mod.![]()
I wrapped it with door edge molding.![]()
I traded XLR KEN a Nav. disk for it.![]()
Tastes
I can see we have a lot in common. Bob is a neighbor of mine. He traded it in on a Viper. The Eldo is an '89. Its in my son's garage now. I drove it for many years. Its still a great car. Rides like a caddy! LOL I wanted a touring coup, but couldn't find one at the time. It has 145K on it. Everything still works on it. Even the ride control. We did change out the front left wheel bearing. Took about a hour. There is not one speck of rust on it. Or door dinks. My son says people wave at him that he doesn't know. I told him they think its me. After driving it 16 years in this little town.
I can see we have a lot in common. Bob is a neighbor of mine. He traded it in on a Viper. The Eldo is an '89. Its in my son's garage now. I drove it for many years. Its still a great car. Rides like a caddy! LOL I wanted a touring coup, but couldn't find one at the time. It has 145K on it. Everything still works on it. Even the ride control. We did change out the front left wheel bearing. Took about a hour. There is not one speck of rust on it. Or door dinks. My son says people wave at him that he doesn't know. I told him they think its me. After driving it 16 years in this little town.
eldo
Yeah, I had my eye on a 91 deep blue t/c but the guy wanted 25K for it back in 93. That was was what it sold for new. It was a beautiful car. Do you remember the wheels on the t/c. Much nicer than the wire caps. To this day, its hard to beat the ride in that car. I think what really gave the car its distinct look was the almost vertical back limo window.
Yeah, I had my eye on a 91 deep blue t/c but the guy wanted 25K for it back in 93. That was was what it sold for new. It was a beautiful car. Do you remember the wheels on the t/c. Much nicer than the wire caps. To this day, its hard to beat the ride in that car. I think what really gave the car its distinct look was the almost vertical back limo window.
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Nice talking with you....but does anyone on this forum ever sleep? 5 am rolls around too quick. G'night.
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Windscreens - Maybe Not So Good
I took mine out as soon as it got too cool to run around with the top down. I'm not sure I'm going to put it back on when the weather gets warm. Anyone with a plastic, lexan or plexiglass windscreen will tell you the worse problem is on-coming headlights reflecting into your mirror.
Now comes a whole new breed of shiny, smooth windscreens that have the option to light-up. And, not only do they light, they even now can get brighter when you step on your brakes. If you think you had a problem with reflection in the rear-view mirror before, I'm sure that lighted ones will blind you.
I've not experienced it, but it has been reported that even the mesh type (i.e. OEM windscreen) causes depth perception problems in the rearview mirror. To avoid the reflection problem, you may be trading it for a vision problem.
I hope examples will be available to review at RIII, because I don't see it improving the performance of the car if it distracts from it's safety or comfort.
XLR KEN (I've approved this message)
With all the XLR FORUM advertising about WINDSCREENS lately, I thought I'd revisit this thread. It would appear that a lot of effort is going into design and marketing of a screen to compete with the Cadillac OEM Screen, but I've personally learned one thing; the lexan approach is a big distraction in the rear-view mirror.OK 20 bucksI did a little mod.![]()
I wrapped it with door edge molding.![]()
I traded XLR KEN a Nav. disk for it.![]()
I took mine out as soon as it got too cool to run around with the top down. I'm not sure I'm going to put it back on when the weather gets warm. Anyone with a plastic, lexan or plexiglass windscreen will tell you the worse problem is on-coming headlights reflecting into your mirror.
Now comes a whole new breed of shiny, smooth windscreens that have the option to light-up. And, not only do they light, they even now can get brighter when you step on your brakes. If you think you had a problem with reflection in the rear-view mirror before, I'm sure that lighted ones will blind you.
I've not experienced it, but it has been reported that even the mesh type (i.e. OEM windscreen) causes depth perception problems in the rearview mirror. To avoid the reflection problem, you may be trading it for a vision problem.
I hope examples will be available to review at RIII, because I don't see it improving the performance of the car if it distracts from it's safety or comfort.
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I think you are right about the glare. In the video that one of them is now showing. You can see the guys face in the drivers seat glow in the light and when he steps on the brake the guy lights up like a Christmas tree.
Now I am sure it might look good at a show but using it on a DD would not work to well.. and at night it would be very hard to see out the back or the car.
motorboat
I think you are right about the glare. In the video that one of them is now showing. You can see the guys face in the drivers seat glow in the light and when he steps on the brake the guy lights up like a Christmas tree.
Now I am sure it might look good at a show but using it on a DD would not work to well.. and at night it would be very hard to see out the back or the car.
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Ken, When you did your screen last year I thought it was great and that I could have improved on it for myself, but the short story is I did not have anytime since to even try, I did give it a ton of thought though and maybe the easiest way to improve your screen would be to have a way to tilt it back and lay it down when you have had enough of the light in your face, vision problem or the top was back up. What you would need to a hinged bottom or some type, either metal, plastic or leather then some type of stop at the top of similar material or velcro to let it loose to fold back down toward the rear! Jim
Ruf
We have a plexi one Paul built last year and it works well. Ruf brought up a very good point: tilted or angled installation would deflect the glare to another direction instead of the driver's eyes. So if one can be built with a slight tilt to deflect up above the top of the rear view mirror. Just some thoughts :rolleyes ....Mea
We have a plexi one Paul built last year and it works well. Ruf brought up a very good point: tilted or angled installation would deflect the glare to another direction instead of the driver's eyes. So if one can be built with a slight tilt to deflect up above the top of the rear view mirror. Just some thoughts :rolleyes ....Mea
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Light Defuser
As I was falling off to sleep last night, I was hit with a possible solution to the reflection problem. Because I have the materials, I'll give it a test and see what happens.
I plan on laminating screen material onto the inside surface of the plexiglass. A few shots of spray adhesive on the screen, this lay the lexan on it and trim. This would defuse the reflected light while not grossly affecting the view. I'd still have the vertical mounting as seen in the photos on Galen's XLR, but wouldn't suffer the glare of the oncoming traffic. Comments? Suggestions?
As I was falling off to sleep last night, I was hit with a possible solution to the reflection problem. Because I have the materials, I'll give it a test and see what happens.
I plan on laminating screen material onto the inside surface of the plexiglass. A few shots of spray adhesive on the screen, this lay the lexan on it and trim. This would defuse the reflected light while not grossly affecting the view. I'd still have the vertical mounting as seen in the photos on Galen's XLR, but wouldn't suffer the glare of the oncoming traffic. Comments? Suggestions?
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Light Absorption
Jim,
I'm after "absorption" rather than "reflection" or "refraction."
The challenge is to eliminate or greatly reduce the reflection from the lexan windscreen from the lights of the oncoming traffic back into the rear-view mirror. The dullness of the screen material would be a plus, but I'm after a rigid screen to allow for mounting. The OEM Screen spans the opening by drawing tight the screen between the rollbars. Combining the two may do the trick. I may end up with a rigid frame of lexan with screen stretched across the opening..............
Ideas are very much welcome. Maybe I'll be a "vendor" someday.
Ken
Jim,
I'm after "absorption" rather than "reflection" or "refraction."
The challenge is to eliminate or greatly reduce the reflection from the lexan windscreen from the lights of the oncoming traffic back into the rear-view mirror. The dullness of the screen material would be a plus, but I'm after a rigid screen to allow for mounting. The OEM Screen spans the opening by drawing tight the screen between the rollbars. Combining the two may do the trick. I may end up with a rigid frame of lexan with screen stretched across the opening..............
Ideas are very much welcome. Maybe I'll be a "vendor" someday.
Ken
If You Have The OEM Windscreen
I have had a lexan screen for a couple of years which, more and more, I do not want to have on the vehicle while driving. Depending on the lexan screen utilized, I believe it has the potential of distracting from the overall sophistication and style of the vehicle. It appears we will soon have a plethora of windscreens to choose from.
I would like to hear from those of you who previously had a lexan windscreen and are now using the OEM windscreen. What are your likes and dislikes about them both? If you could only have one, would it be lexan or the OEM?
Thanks!
I have had a lexan screen for a couple of years which, more and more, I do not want to have on the vehicle while driving. Depending on the lexan screen utilized, I believe it has the potential of distracting from the overall sophistication and style of the vehicle. It appears we will soon have a plethora of windscreens to choose from.
I would like to hear from those of you who previously had a lexan windscreen and are now using the OEM windscreen. What are your likes and dislikes about them both? If you could only have one, would it be lexan or the OEM?
Thanks!
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