I feel a need to throw in a word of warning on this thread...It is only because everyone on the forum has been so helpful in the past that I mention this and it is only my personal opinion.
Be very careful about mentioning specific dealers in a negative way. As most of us know, many dealers "lurk" on this forum. Without proof of what we say those dealers may take (legal) offense at being mentioned.
The "reputable dealer" thread is a wonderful idea in that it only mentions those dealers with which we've had good experiences. If you think about the many magazines that do reviews, most only print the good reviews. There are a number of reasons for that, but one of them is the threat of slander suits by a manufacturer.
Anyway just my two cents / personal opinion. I don't want to see our sponsor or anyone else get hurt by something they post here.
Building a hate list is one thing but doing in a public forum like this maybe asking for trouble.
While Webfather is stating "As long as the posts are Factual....the TRUTH is an absolute defense." he had better have at least 1700 confirmed, and very unreproachable witnesses to substantiate such terms and "....all dealer are morons...." not to mention a number of other statements that collectively are not fact but a gross mischaractorization. Statements of fact do not use the term such as "....they are all...." or making another global negative reference without any basis.
If you really want to make a difference then take your specific and very documented events to your local better business bureau or to your State's Authorney General and do some good. Don't just sit there screeming everyone's a moron because that is just was a moron would. i.e., get a brain
The real problem here is that the MSRP is just a guide, not an absolute and you always have the option to walk out the door.
Any dealer as the right to sell his merchandise for what ever he wants. The BBB can only help if the dealer cheats ot lies to you, amd same for the AG of your state.
Rather than carping about everything could you take the capital letters out of your inputs along with you bias and tell us how to fix what you think is wrong. If you don't have anytjhing constructive to offer to fix the problem then........
Carping does not fix anything unless you are willing to provide an alternative. All I see from you is carping and the fax you like carping. How about being pro active. Keeping in mind that the vast majority of the dealers are good and your view is very....whatever.
These are the guys that wouldnt even unlock the car so I could look inside when I was in the show room dressed down on a saturday. I was in last week in my business attire and the practically bent over for me. Disgusting. Even after I called and voiced my complaint to the owner they couldnt even bother to have someone from management call me back.