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The insulation padding would be done by the dealer under warranty. it's a fairly simple process, but it is desinged to reduce the heat coming from the sides of the console not the top of it.
The heat issue is very subjective,,, many owners never complain & others do. Somuch of it depends on how you drive the car, how you get the drive shaft spinning within the torque tube.
Im not saying there is not a heat issue, but It seems like the agressve drivers. I have clients that have never driven over 75 mph.
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Allen
The heat issue is very subjective,,, many owners never complain & others do. Somuch of it depends on how you drive the car, how you get the drive shaft spinning within the torque tube.
Im not saying there is not a heat issue, but It seems like the agressve drivers. I have clients that have never driven over 75 mph.
www.Cadillac-XLR.com
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Allen
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console heat
Allen,
In the newer cars or maybe just in the "V" did they not find a way to let more air go thur the tunnel where the drive shaft is to cool the console?
I had my console top off once but like most people know there really is NOT any room under there to add much if any insulation to help the heat.
I drive about 70-80 mph and my console gets to about 90-95 deg.
I was going to put my car on a lift and see if any mod. could be done to add more air but just have not found the time.
Some people have talked about ducting some of the AC air into the tunnel but I don't think that would help. Now if we could find a way to add the cooling cup holders like in the Chrysler van that would be neat.
So for now I just drink my drinks faster and put a small 6 pack cooler in front of my seat do hold more drinks..
Blaise
Allen,
In the newer cars or maybe just in the "V" did they not find a way to let more air go thur the tunnel where the drive shaft is to cool the console?
I had my console top off once but like most people know there really is NOT any room under there to add much if any insulation to help the heat.
I drive about 70-80 mph and my console gets to about 90-95 deg.
I was going to put my car on a lift and see if any mod. could be done to add more air but just have not found the time.
Some people have talked about ducting some of the AC air into the tunnel but I don't think that would help. Now if we could find a way to add the cooling cup holders like in the Chrysler van that would be neat.
So for now I just drink my drinks faster and put a small 6 pack cooler in front of my seat do hold more drinks..
Blaise
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I have deadener that I have used part #25649654. I can bring some with me to BG and I can install it and you can see if it makes a difference.let me know
Bruce
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Bruce,I have deadener that I have used part #25649654. I can bring some with me to BG and I can install it and you can see if it makes a difference.let me know
Bruce
Bring a truck load. I think the XLR's will be lining up for a little heat-relief..................I'm getting tired of all my stuff melting in the console.
I don't really see it as a "subjective" issue as some may call it, just one of tolerance or failure to recognized a solution. Opps, there I go with those negative vibs.............
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Bruce,
That would be very nice of you if you think it would work. I am all for it. :thumbs
With all the things you are doing for everyone when do you think you will have time to sleep? :sleep
I will send you my vin. this afternoon so you know what you are up against.
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Blaise
That would be very nice of you if you think it would work. I am all for it. :thumbs
With all the things you are doing for everyone when do you think you will have time to sleep? :sleep
I will send you my vin. this afternoon so you know what you are up against.
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Blaise
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I will bring my Infrared temp gun and will take a few readings on the way up and if you can install something then I will take some readings on the way back and let you all know well it does...
Bruce your the greatest.:thumbs
Blaise
P.S. If I get a deal on the windscreen, get my console fixed, do a GM plant tour like no other, and get to meet all these people from the forum and Cadillac all in the same trip it's going make my day. :cheers
Hell it will make my year....arty
Bruce your the greatest.:thumbs
Blaise
P.S. If I get a deal on the windscreen, get my console fixed, do a GM plant tour like no other, and get to meet all these people from the forum and Cadillac all in the same trip it's going make my day. :cheers
Hell it will make my year....
arty
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Great Support
I'm starting to think that "BRUCE" will be voted "MVP" at the BG Rendezvous...........definitely "Service after the sale".
Responsive, Knowledgeable, Accurate, and on and on............and everybody said........THANKS.
XLR KEN
Blaise, I agree 100%! :iagree :thumbs :thumbs (two thumbs up)
I'm starting to think that "BRUCE" will be voted "MVP" at the BG Rendezvous...........definitely "Service after the sale".
Responsive, Knowledgeable, Accurate, and on and on............and everybody said........THANKS.
XLR KEN
Just took the XLR in for some warranty to work. Brought up the issue of the hot console with the service manager and to prove the point handed him the mailbox key I keep in the console. He didn't drop it, but he wanted to.
I did some research at the Vette sites and found this website: http://www.eliteengineeringusa.com/Thermal_Abs_Temp_Tests.html
I e-mailed them this question: I am having the same heat issues on my 2005 Cadillac XLR as the Corvettes. Do you have any idea if your product would also fit the XLR?
I received this reply: Thanks for your email. I'm still trying to determine if the XLR has the same tunnel area as the Corvette. If so, one of our Thermal-Abs Tunnel Plates will do a great job. In addition, you may want to look at Dynamat or Frost King Insulation.
I have tried to find out if the plates are the same, but haven't had any luck so far.
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Ialso emailed them and am waiting for a reply. This looks to be a great solution if they are the same for the Corvette and XLR.
Cubby558:cool
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While in BG we'll have to ask a engineer if the XLR use the same frames as a Corvette Z06. If it is and I think it is, then we can use the replacement tunnel plates. I've thought of this replacement too. I also think that we can use a Z06 Corsa exhaust on the XLR's.
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console heat
I am in W. Memphis right now at the hotel. While driving up here from Texas I have taken a few temp. readings on the cup holders and console.
The temp outside was 98 on my nav display and the cup holders were 105, drivers side of console was 104. Engine temp was about 195-200.
When the outside temp. got to 108 my cup holders were 115 and the console was 109, motor temp 210-220...
I hope something will work for this.
Blaise
I am in W. Memphis right now at the hotel. While driving up here from Texas I have taken a few temp. readings on the cup holders and console.
The temp outside was 98 on my nav display and the cup holders were 105, drivers side of console was 104. Engine temp was about 195-200.
When the outside temp. got to 108 my cup holders were 115 and the console was 109, motor temp 210-220...
I hope something will work for this.
Blaise
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The cup holders would work good to keep your coffee hot :glol
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Console-Trunk/Global Warming?
I really don't enjoy beating the drums on this problem, but in my view, this heating problem is a serious defect. Not only do the cupholders heat up whatever you put in them, and the console becomes hot to the touch, but the really annoying thing is the 'Heated Trunk Option'. I don't remember seeing this feature listed on the window sticker.
Driving back from Bowling Green this past week, I had my overnight bag in the trunk. Arriving home, it not only was very hot to the touch, my electric razor that was inside the luggage, and INSIDE a metal case, was baked! It was hot thru and thru. Also, my digital camera was near burning hot to the touch.
In an age when GM can invent and build such a remarkable machine as the XLR, (and Corvette) you would think that solving this problem would be trivial.
Hey, maybe Al Gore is right about this Global Warming! (nah, kidding)
Las Vegas Dave
I really don't enjoy beating the drums on this problem, but in my view, this heating problem is a serious defect. Not only do the cupholders heat up whatever you put in them, and the console becomes hot to the touch, but the really annoying thing is the 'Heated Trunk Option'. I don't remember seeing this feature listed on the window sticker.
Driving back from Bowling Green this past week, I had my overnight bag in the trunk. Arriving home, it not only was very hot to the touch, my electric razor that was inside the luggage, and INSIDE a metal case, was baked! It was hot thru and thru. Also, my digital camera was near burning hot to the touch.
In an age when GM can invent and build such a remarkable machine as the XLR, (and Corvette) you would think that solving this problem would be trivial.
Hey, maybe Al Gore is right about this Global Warming! (nah, kidding)
Las Vegas Dave
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This has just got to be one of the strangest, most mystifying things about XLRs. On our trip to and from Bowling Green we were contantly feeling the console, cup holders, and divider between the seats (8 hours one way on Sunday) with the temperature on the display screen at times registering 102 F. At most, we would say the cup holders felt slightly warm (Sandra's flowers rode in them the whole time in both directions and were as happy as could be). The other parts never felt even warm.
Similarly, the trunk didn't get very warm either. One of our digital cameras was back there resting directly on the trunk floor - it never got hot. The group picture from the Corvette Museum was resting directly on the center of the trunk floor and it wasn't warm and was fine when we arrived home on Sunday.
The XLR folk at Bowling Green freely acknowledged there was a problem that some owners have with the heat in those areas while extremely puzzling were cars like ours which have no problem. There was a fair amount of discussion about the situation and why certain proposed solutions would not be considered because of how they could structurally impact the "backbone" of the car. They were interested to hear of some possible solutions from the attendees and were going to research them.
At the "Park and Shine" cadillac tech (Bruce) was experimenting with installing some heat shielding on Galen's car to see if it might help. It will be interesting to hear from Galen about the results.
Best regards,
Ed and Sandra
Similarly, the trunk didn't get very warm either. One of our digital cameras was back there resting directly on the trunk floor - it never got hot. The group picture from the Corvette Museum was resting directly on the center of the trunk floor and it wasn't warm and was fine when we arrived home on Sunday.
The XLR folk at Bowling Green freely acknowledged there was a problem that some owners have with the heat in those areas while extremely puzzling were cars like ours which have no problem. There was a fair amount of discussion about the situation and why certain proposed solutions would not be considered because of how they could structurally impact the "backbone" of the car. They were interested to hear of some possible solutions from the attendees and were going to research them.
At the "Park and Shine" cadillac tech (Bruce) was experimenting with installing some heat shielding on Galen's car to see if it might help. It will be interesting to hear from Galen about the results.
Best regards,
Ed and Sandra
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While we were at th plant in BG, someone in the group asked if the "tunnel plate" was the same in the XLR as it was in the Vette. This would make the retrofit heat shields from Elite and Summit Racing fit our cars as well as the Vettes. Yes, the head engineer remarked he wouldn't advise changing the plate to the thicker kind, since it would affect how the car performed in a crash. But, if one were to replace it with either a plate the same thickness (Elite Eng) or simply add the heat shield (Summit). there should be no issues with the crashworthness of the car.
I have heat issues in my 04, and might add the shield from Summit- this one does not appear to require dropping the exhaust; the Elite Engineering requires removing the exhaust system and totally replacing the plate. It may bemy "Labor Day" project if I get off my butt and order it...
Obviously, I'll let you forummfolks know if it makes a difference after I do it.
I have heat issues in my 04, and might add the shield from Summit- this one does not appear to require dropping the exhaust; the Elite Engineering requires removing the exhaust system and totally replacing the plate. It may bemy "Labor Day" project if I get off my butt and order it...
Obviously, I'll let you forummfolks know if it makes a difference after I do it.
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An update on my own post:
After talking to the guys at Cadillac and hearing some of the ideas at the plant we tried one of them on the way home.
I have always just set the air cond. to 69 deg. , recirt, fan to 2or3 and had it set to blow out the upper vents.
They said to try the Bi-Level mode to send some of the air down to the console.
Well we set every thing the same but had it blow both down and up...
It cooled it down a lot. Still will get my coke warm but takes a lot longer.
Outside temp was 104, cup holders were 89 and the console was down to about 85..
Big change don't you think?
Blaise
After talking to the guys at Cadillac and hearing some of the ideas at the plant we tried one of them on the way home.
I have always just set the air cond. to 69 deg. , recirt, fan to 2or3 and had it set to blow out the upper vents.
They said to try the Bi-Level mode to send some of the air down to the console.
Well we set every thing the same but had it blow both down and up...
It cooled it down a lot. Still will get my coke warm but takes a lot longer.
Outside temp was 104, cup holders were 89 and the console was down to about 85..
Big change don't you think?
Blaise
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