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That is $4,000 over invoice. I think a few Cadillac dealers are a little nervous having something with a $100K sticker in inventory. Massey is a big dealer group though, I would expect them to try for a bit more.
 

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I agree but you would think if they didn't want one they would of let another dealer have it where they are in stronger demand.
 

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I would be very careful of Massy. I willing to bet there is some catch. I wrote extentively on this site two years ago when buying my 04 XLR how they lied repeately to me. To make a long story short. Back then I won the bid for the XLR, called them, sent 10K deposit and told them I would be there in 5 days to pick it up (as I live in Cincinnnati and they were in Texas). Everything was fine til I showed up. They sold the car to someone else (while holding my deposit) who offered more AFTER I had already won the bidding. I immediately got my lawyers involved. I demanded my money back on the spot plus my airfare. They told me they would have to mail me a check. Long story short, It took 3 months and a lawsuit to get the money. They wanted me to wait for another car.
 
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Somthing is fishy here

Rick,
That's almost like bait and switch. I hope you nailed them for more than airfare. Your right, any dealer would take that car off their hands for a lot more than 91k.
Bob

rick1827 said:
I would be very careful of Massy. I willing to bet there is some catch. I wrote extentively on this site two years ago when buying my 04 XLR how they lied repeately to me. To make a long story short. Back then I won the bid for the XLR, called them, sent 10K deposit and told them I would be there in 5 days to pick it up (as I live in Cincinnnati and they were in Texas). Everything was fine til I showed up. They sold the car to someone else (while holding my deposit) who offered more AFTER I had already won the bidding. I immediately got my lawyers involved. I demanded my money back on the spot plus my airfare. They told me they would have to mail me a check. Long story short, It took 3 months and a lawsuit to get the money. They wanted me to wait for another car.
 

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Rick,
That's almost like bait and switch. I hope you nailed them for more than airfare. Your right, any dealer would take that car off their hands for a lot more than 91k.
Bob

OKay,

Here is the deal. As of this writing I am the only bidder on the car with No Reserve. My local dealer repeatly said something must be wrong because GM called him asking for his allotment back for another customer. So, My dealer called Massy and offered him 95K for the car. The sales person listing the car said there was NO WAY he would take less than 102K. My dealer reminded him that it was a no reserve acution. He said he did not care, and would not let the car go. He cliamed that he would personally bid on the car to drive the price up. So, I called him. I reminded him of the encounter 2 years ago. He said that he was not playing games. I then offered to send my deposit immediately so that he had it. He refused to give me his address. The auction closes at 9:00 EST tonight. My attorney is currently drafting a letter stating that we are going to watch this for fraud and they better be on the up & up. This could get very interesting very soon.

Rick
 

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Having sold many cars on ebay and over 1,000 transactions let me offer this advice. First if he attempts to bid up his own item, it is a violation of Ebay policy and will be suspend imediately. You need to alert Ebay of this if it happens. If you suspect it they have ways of investigating it. I know I've seen it happen to others. Second he can just cancell the auction at anytime and its over. He just pays Ebay the listing fees and that is the end of it. Even if there are bids on it he can cancell it. He may not be able to do it in the final 12 hours, I'm not clear on the Ebay policy on that. The only way he can get out of this legally (Ebay rules) now is to end the auction (only if the 12 hour rule doesn't apply). If he bids on it or you are the high bidder and he does not honor it he's got a problem. Let us know how it proceeds.
 

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Having sold many cars on ebay and over 1,000 transactions let me offer this advice. First if he attempts to bid up his own item, it is a violation of Ebay policy and will be suspend imediately. You need to alert Ebay of this if it happens. If you suspect it they have ways of investigating it. I know I've seen it happen to others. Second he can just cancell the auction at anytime and its over. He just pays Ebay the listing fees and that is the end of it. Even if there are bids on it he can cancell it. He may not be able to do it in the final 12 hours, I'm not clear on the Ebay policy on that. The only way he can get out of this legally (Ebay rules) now is to end the auction (only if the 12 hour rule doesn't apply). If he bids on it or you are the high bidder and he does not honor it he's got a problem. Let us know how it proceeds.
I have already alerted ebay, but honestly I don't they care. It took 20 minutes just to fine someone to take the complaint. They don't care until after the fact and I doubt they care then. I have had my attorney already sent them a letter. I guess we will find out in a couple of hours. BY THE WAY, I just took delivery of my V here in Cincinnati. So, If any of you guys want one, I might have one for sale. My dealer has already told me he would give me 95K to take my place.
 

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Do not give them a loophole send them the 500 deposit as it states with in 24 hours. I wouls do it via paypal if you can to have documented proof of the deposit. They are going to look for a loop hole to get out of this. You can call them by phone but there is no proof of conversations at the vary least I would send the information to themthrough ebayin writting to back up the call.
 
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Rick,
I hope you get it, but don't get your hopes up until you shut it off in your garage.
Bob (100K for my V) I'm not jealous, I'm not jealous, I AM NOT JEALOUS
 

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Rick,
I hope you get it, but don't get your hopes up until you shut it off in your garage.
Bob (K for my V) I'm not jealous, I'm not jealous, I AM NOT JEALOUS

Thanks for all the advice. I have talked to them twice, they have actually been very nice. I am very suspicouse of them. I think they know that I have them and are just going to do the deal.

ANYONE..... I am know the proud owner of 2 Black on Black V's. I am will to sell either one (one has 10 miles and the other has 7) for 95K. This is a seriouse offer as I do not need two of them. You can email me at [email protected].

I love ebay!!!!
 
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If you love E-bay, why don't you put it up for sale on e-bay instead of putting it in the wrong catagory on this site. We have a catorgory for putting items up for sale.
Bob (Told you I was jealous)
 

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If you love E-bay, why don't you put it up for sale on e-bay instead of putting it in the wrong catagory on this site. We have a catorgory for putting items up for sale.
Bob (Told you I was jealous)

I sold it tonight. By the way, they tell me they have more than 1. I put it in this forum so that anyone following the threads would know about it.
 
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I'm glad you made a few bucks, but the point was, there is a for sale section on this site and we usually try to stick to the rules of this site, plus your ad will be seen better in that area.
 
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How come we haven't heard anymore about the V you won on E-bay? Did you got to Massey to pick it up or did you sell it and the new owner is picking it up. I'm dying to hear about the face to face at Massey, aren't you guys?
Bob

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I sold it tonight. By the way, they tell me they have more than 1. I put it in this forum so that anyone following the threads would know about it.
 

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How come we haven't heard anymore about the V you won on E-bay? Did you got to Massey to pick it up or did you sell it and the new owner is picking it up. I'm dying to hear about the face to face at Massey, aren't you guys?
Bob
Sold it. My dealer who sold me mine bought it. Camargo Cadillac.
 
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