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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 03-03-2012, 12:13 PM Thread Starter
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Just Bought 2005, Should we buy Warranty?

Hello again with question 2. We purchased a 2005 with 54k miles. We can get a comprehensive exclusionary extended warranty through CostCo for around $1000/year with $100 deductible. In other words 3yr/36k miles of coverage is $3,000, 4yr/48k miles is $4000, 5yr/60k miles is $5000. Give or take a couple hundred. This includes everything but maintenance and wear items. Includes the top and all factory electrical.

I maintain my cars very well, so the question is: In a good home, does a coddled XLR have more than $1000 in repairs per year? We will be putting 6,000-8,000 miles on it a year.

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Warranties are like life insurance. You hope you never need them but are thankful when you do.

--That being said, there's no way to know for sure, other than to look at the service history over the life of the car and even then, you're still gambling. If car warranties weren't profitable to those that sell them, they wouldn't be offered. (With the exception of a Yugo, and I doubt any company would warranty one of those --even if new!)

I took the other route and bought a Tech 2 and the shop manuals. In the three years I've owned it, I've spent very little in vehicle upkeep (oil and tires) and I use mine as a daily driver. If something crops up, I can check it myself and in many cases repair the problem myself. The top seems to be the most trouble-prone area, (from my experience) but I have had the car throw a code or two to keep it interesting. At least if I have to take it in, I know basically what's wrong. Compared to the $3K I was quoted for an extended warranty, my repairs have been $0. Your milage may vary.

If I sell the car, I can sell the Tech 2, manuals and Roof Maintenance DVD and recoup a good portion of the cost. The Tech 2 was just over $2k new. With an expired warranty, I have nothing.

It's purely a matter of your ability to work on a car and gambling nature.

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Pardon the jump, but what is this "Roof Maintenance DVD" for which you speak? Where might it be sourced? TIA!
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Not a thread jack at all, since it was mentioned in the thread.

GM's Service Technical College produced a training DVD as part of its training program for for its certified techs in 2005, entitled "Cadillac XLR Folding Top Servicing Procedures."

It is 1:45 long and describes how the top works, and how to make mechanical adjustments, measurements, sensor replacement and re-learn procedures with the Tech 2.

GM has two XLR-related course books, #10346.50B "2004 Cadillac XLR Technical Features" and #10446.55B "2004 Cadillac XLR Systems."

I found all of these on eBay a few years ago and they're a nice supplement to the shop manuals. They appear infrequently, so you need to use their Search/Alert feature to be notified if they're for sale, --unless you like browsing through lots of unrelated items.

I paid about $50 for the books and $75 for the DVD. I think I saw a VHS version of the DVD offered once. As far as sourcing directly from GM, I don't think they sell their training material to the general public, but the phone number for the Training Materials Headquarters is 800-393-4831. All they can say is no.

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Thanks! I'll keep a look out for those items... and perhaps try that posted number. Can't hurt to try...
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Found some at this website:

http://www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/action/viewstore

Go to page 8..

CC - do these sound like what you have? I ordered them both...

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Here's a link which returns all the acdelco XLR publications:
http://www.acdelcotds.com/acdelco/ac...ore?search=xlr
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The second one has the same title, but different number. The first one might be the books I have, but the number is different also.

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Hey atlanta I'm in the same boat. I went to three dealers quoting me the best 48,000 for 4,600. I have a 04 with 8,000 on her. I read someone went to their credit union so I went that ave. I just called on Friday and they quoted 72 month or 90,000 for 1,600 and change with no deductible. Fro a 50 deduct it was 1,500 and a 100 deduct was 1,400. She said that was their premium pack and it covered everything not mait. off course. I told her I'll b in on mon. to check out. I'll keep posted. Numark credit union
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Sounds like a great deal.

Make sure it specifies coverage of the folding hardtop and associated electronics. --Many aftermarket warranties claiming to be bumper to bumper do not when you dig into the fine print.

Shocks and headlights are close to $1000 each; those are probably considered normal wear and tear components.

I hope it works out for you!

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I just bought a 36k 30mo. $100 deductable from my dealer (Hoehn Cadillac, Carlsbad, Ca.) The cost was $2400 and my 2005 XLR has 17k. I just bought the car. I figured I could burn through that $2400 on any moderate repair.
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6 months ago I bought an 05 with 31K miles. Bought the extended warranty from Ally for 3 grand. Read the fine print. These warranties usefully are enforceable if there is "failure". May not have been money well spent.
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Thanks for all the tips gentlemen. I decided to go without the warranty. It came down to which of the following would dissapoint me more:

1) I spent good money on a warranty and were denied claim(s).

- or -

2) I had repairs that cost appreciably more than I would have spent on a warranty.

Number 1, by far.
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Doesn't a 'Tech 2' require periodic updating by GM ? If I buy a 'Tech 2' I will still need to be 'buddies' with a tech at a GM dealer to get the updates, correct ? I would like to purchase everything needed (books and tech 2) to keep this car going, but was told "you can't get a personal Tech 2 updated" by the tech that works on my car.
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I bought my Tech 2 three years ago -after the XLR production ended. The memory card was updated to the 2010 GM model year, and works great for my '04. While changes to the Tech 2 for the entire GM lineup have surely occurred since I bought mine, I doubt the XLR has seen major revisions to it's diagnostic software --The Tech 2 works hand in hand with the shop manuals, and those are pretty much "locked down" as well.

The latest revisions to Tech 2 software and procedural changes to the shop manuals are available to dealerships. Again, I doubt there are enough changes to fret over (especially new procedures to open a jammed trunk!)

Dealers are converting from the Tech 2 to a PC-based diagnostic system, but the Tech 2 works great. My old dealership said they'd update my firmware if I wanted to, so it really depends on the relationship you cultivate with yours. I wouldn't let that aspect of Tech 2 ownership dictate whether or not to buy one. Any of the new Tech 2's you buy online should be at the latest rev anyway.

For me, the decision to buy a warranty or a Tech 2 was easy. My car was not eligible for a GMPP and all of the other warranties I researched would not include the Folding Top or associated electronics. Though the salesman said their warranties were bumper-to-bumper, the small print begged to differ.

I find that one of the most problematic issues with the earlier XLRs (04-05) involve the calibration of the top, and my car appears to be no different.

I've fixed a couple of problems using my Tech 2, but it hasn't paid for itself (yet.) I does however give me piece of mind if I have to take it in, since I have a pretty good idea of what's wrong and whether or not it's in my ability to repair the fault or not. I scan the car at least once a quarter, write down what it finds, clear the codes and re-scan after a quick drive. Almost always, the car scans clean. If I see the codes pop up over time, I take note and deal with them according to the shop manual. Dumbs#$t stuff like gas caps that aren't seated and illuminate the MIL light are quickly cleared and forgotten.

Had I spent considerably more on a warranty, I would have a year left and no major repairs to have applied it towards. At least I have a tool I can sell and re-coup at least 50% of the cost later on.

For me, the Tech 2 has been a worthwhile expenditure and allowed me to learn a lot more about these interesting and unique vehicles. Your mileage may vary.

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