: Some tricks for XLR owners to be & owners
standby 12-03-2004, 05:53 PM Press TC on the console and hold for 5 seconds and it takes off the TC & Stabilitrack system= much quicker off the line and you now have control of your XLR. Go pop a wheely, (not really). Still a little slow off the line? Change out the gears for a Vette 6 speed gear set up. You will also need the code from Cadillac for the computer, so the tranny and gears can talk the same language. It's about $2,500 but it would probably get your heart pumping.
A free fix from Caddy is available for the heat under the console from the exhaust, which during the summer gets really hot & just about boils water bottles in the cup holders. It's a space age heat reflector, which takes a day to put in.
When you buy this awsome machine, give yourself a good month, between work, play and romance to read all the books in the glove box. Plan on sitting in
your machine for hours at a time to play with all the gadgets that aren't just standing out there to be played with. This vehicle...OOOPS!....machine doesn't look intimidating on the inside unless you really know what's available to you under all that Carbon There are features that will bogle the mind.............and someone said this is not a luxury Roadster? He should be anshamed of himself.
mswaim 12-03-2004, 06:06 PM As I explained to you on the other forum, you are completely off-base with your claim that your XLR will come to a complete stop without your assistance. Your "active cruise" does not function below 20 mph and will not bring the vehicle to a complete stop as you are suggesting.
BTW - It's five seconds, not eight..........
mswaim 12-03-2004, 07:54 PM I don't believe anyone is picking your information apart, I'm simply pointing out that you are posting incorrect information that if followed would lead to a collision.
BTW - It's Adaptive Cruise Control and it will not engage below 25 mph and disengages when your speed drops below 20 mph.
alk3997 12-06-2004, 10:33 AM I don't believe anyone is picking your information apart, I'm simply pointing out that you are posting incorrect information that if followed would lead to a collision.
BTW - It's Adaptive Cruise Control and it will not engage below 25 mph and disengages when your speed drops below 20 mph.
Before we get into a virtual shouting match, may an impartial third part throw in his two sense. This is based on use and studying the system.
- Active cruise control can only be engaged at 25 MPH. However, if you time it just right you might be able to get it to engage at 24 MPH (for whatever that is worth) by slightly decellerating while engaging at 25 MPH.
- The ACC warning light begins flashing anytime the vehicle goes below 20 MPH and the active cruise is engaged. At that point the XLR will no longer attempt to accelerate under ACC.
- However, the ACC braking system will continue to work down to 5 MPH. The algorithm used below 20 MPH for braking appears very different than the one used from 20 MPH and greater. That the algorithm is different is my speculation based on use. The warning light remains illuminated while the braking continues.
- Below 5 MPH, the ACC simply goes completely passive with no braking and no acceleration. Mostly the XLR will stop at this point because of friction and inertia but not always. Your results may vary.
Hope that helps the settle the argument...
Andy
mswaim 12-06-2004, 11:46 AM Andy, your points are well taken, however the original difference of opinion grew out of the statement that the XLR will come to a complete, unassisted stop if faced with a fixed object, ie, a vehicle stopped in its path. The rest of the thread is of little value since pinning down the actual speed at which the system operates or fails to is mostly semantics.
alk3997 12-06-2004, 04:24 PM Andy, your points are well taken, however the original difference of opinion grew out of the statement that the XLR will come to a complete, unassisted stop if faced with a fixed object, ie, a vehicle stopped in its path. The rest of the thread is of little value since pinning down the actual speed at which the system operates or fails to is mostly semantics.
Thank you - I should have read closer.
OK, as far as fixed objects are concerned. They are part of the road. The system won't "see" a non-moving wall in front of it until the very last second (too late). The same holds true for a non-moving car in front of the XLR.
Speculation - the reason for this behaviour comes from not "knowing" how the road turns. If the ACC sees a background object in front of it and then brakes, we would have problems everytime we made a turn where straight-ahead had a wall or building. That would be a really annoying system (IMHO)! The system does have accelerometers for measuring turns (that is how the "tight curve" message is generated) but I'm afraid non-moving objects are still the responsibility of the driver.
Andy
BUDSVET 12-06-2004, 05:19 PM I do believe you are correct Andy. I have tried it all and I have driven my XLR as much or more than most members on this forum, 23558 miles since april 14 2004. just put new rubber, slotted and drilled rotors and Z rated brake pads on and have tried to let my car stop when a vehicle in front slowed and then come to a full stop. mine would slow way down but didn't come to a stop until I stepped on the brake. No guts no glory.
mswaim 12-06-2004, 06:13 PM I do believe you are correct Andy. I have tried it all and I have driven my XLR as much or more than most members on this forum, 23558 miles since april 14 2004. just put new rubber, slotted and drilled rotors and Z rated brake pads on and have tried to let my car stop when a vehicle in front slowed and then come to a full stop. mine would slow way down but didn't come to a stop until I stepped on the brake. No guts no glory.
Ouch....now that's what I call dedicated research.
BTW - Whose slotted/drilled rotors and pads did you go with ?
1_XLR 12-07-2004, 11:21 AM .
BTW - Whose slotted/drilled rotors and pads did you go with ?
.....And do they squeal????
BUDSVET 12-07-2004, 12:36 PM I used nationalfleetparts SP Performance. the pads are Z pads and they are the same as the corvette. $ 272.00 for front and rear and the rotors I bought on Ebay for $189.00. the rotors are treated so that they won't rust and when you brake them in they will smoke a bit. but they need to be broke in properly. they don't aqueal yet and I doubt if they will but my old ones never did either. I am looking for stainless steal brake lines, haven't found any yet. rotorpros1@yahoo.com is the guy in CA. selling the rotors.very easy guy to deal with.
mswaim 12-07-2004, 02:44 PM I've seen his listings on Ebay, guess I'll have to check a bit closer. When you get a chance, how about a photo or two?
1_XLR 12-07-2004, 03:42 PM I've seen his listings on Ebay, guess I'll have to check a bit closer. When you get a chance, how about a photo or two?
I saw the ebay listing too, only it shows 289. now for the set of four.
they sell the CTS at 189 and esclade at 205, whats that all about???
did you buy all four at 189 ??
BUDSVET 12-07-2004, 09:54 PM Have to check my credit card. thought I did, but hell sometimes I forget where I live. let you know later. will post some pic tomorrow. Just checked my account on ebay and it was $ 189 plus shipping for all four which put the total $236.00
Dadonator 12-09-2004, 01:04 PM Just found this thread--I'm embarrased to say that I didn't know the 5-8 second trick on the traction control switch--here I thought I got rid of the annoying traction control, and I still had Stabilitrack on!
I thought the front tire was hitting the wheel well when I pulled on to the highway from a right angled stop sign near my house (at full throttle :angel ).
Turns out it was the stabilization/traction control, which I thought I'd turned off!
THANKS AGAIN XLR FORUM PEOPLE!
Feels like I've got a whole new toy, after 10 months--the tranny computer seems a bit "angrier" in this mode too!!! :reddevil
:party :party :party
--Bob
PS I'm psyched to finally figure out how to import an avatar!
XLRBob 12-13-2004, 07:39 PM I've had my XLR for a couple of months. I've been wondering about that heat under the console. I'm glad you mentioned this because I was ready to call the service dept. to inquire about it.
Also, I didn't realize that turning stabilitrak off would increase the off the line performance. I'm on three weeks travel and miss my XLR. But I will be looking into these things when I return.
Thanks again
Where would I go for the Vette gear set up?
mswaim 10-20-2005, 08:37 AM Same place you would go for the codes..............dreamland. Just kidding, although if you read the entire thread you should have noted that most of the information posted by the original poster is to be taken with a grain (or a bucket) of salt. The setup will cost $2,500 according to him, I'm assuming that includes the cost of the computer codes - a real bargain considering their actual marketplace value (if they were actually available).
I'm quite sure they would help every bit as well as the "space-age" heat reflector fix did.
Space age........now that's a term you don't hear every day.
standby 10-20-2005, 04:14 PM I repeat..................I consider the sourceSame place you would go for the codes..............dreamland. Just kidding, although if you read the entire thread you should have noted that most of the information posted by the original poster is to be taken with a grain (or a bucket) of salt. The setup will cost $2,500 according to him, I'm assuming that includes the cost of the computer codes - a real bargain considering their actual marketplace value (if they were actually available).
I'm quite sure they would help every bit as well as the "space-age" heat reflector fix did.
Space age........now that's a term you don't hear every day.
mswaim 10-20-2005, 05:19 PM So you are sticking by your story that for $2,500 I can purchase the rear gears from an 2005 C6 along with the computer codes for an XLR (programmable codes) and complete a successful swap?
You are so right, consider the source. :bs
standby 10-20-2005, 05:39 PM Some information that I have posted on this site came from reputable people and dealers, such as Chevrolet, I have no way of knowing if it is factual or not, my intent was to try to give people on this site information that would help them make up their minds for themselves. I merely passed on information that was given to me on the rear end by the Chevrolet people. Another one of my posts clearly states that you have to have a code in order to make this work.
I think I remember you now........................You where the playground bully.
So you are sticking by your story that for $2,500 I can purchase the rear gears from an 2005 C6 along with the computer codes for an XLR (programmable codes) and complete a successful swap?
You are so right, consider the source. :bs
mswaim 10-20-2005, 09:15 PM Some information that I have posted on this site came from reputable people and dealers, such as Chevrolet, I have no way of knowing if it is factual or not, my intent was to try to give people on this site information that would help them make up their minds for themselves. I merely passed on information that was given to me on the rear end by the Chevrolet people. Another one of my posts clearly states that you have to have a code in order to make this work.
I think I remember you now........................You where the playground bully.
So Bob, in other words, don't hold you responsible, it's someone else's fault you are void of useful and honest information................. :thumbs
I think I remember you now.......................the playground crybaby - I guess some things never change. :nopity
L2C - Just so your original question doesn't get buried: I don't believe anyone here has successfully completed the gear swap.
Quixotic 10-21-2005, 03:33 PM OK, OK, lets play nice... :flag
standby 10-21-2005, 08:28 PM Speaking of crybaby, I bet you did a lot to get out of your leased XLR.
No, I was the guy that came to the rescue of the people that where afraid of the bully and kicked his butt. I must say, I've never run into a person as negative as you in my life. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/15/15_3_32.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm414YYUS)
So Bob, in other words, don't hold you responsible, it's someone else's fault you are void of useful and honest information................. :thumbs
I think I remember you now.......................the playground crybaby - I guess some things never change. :nopity
L2C - Just so your original question doesn't get buried: I don't believe anyone here has successfully completed the gear swap.
standby 10-21-2005, 08:30 PM Sorry, Bully's don't know how to play niceOK, OK, lets play nice... :flag
mswaim 10-21-2005, 09:43 PM LOL and here I thought I was on the ignore list................
FYI - Just to clear up any confusion, I don't remember crying at all during the buyback process. I treated my dealer and the GM rep with dignity and respect, in exchange they placed value on my continued patronage and paid me what I was due and then some.
Others (Bob) were forced to post a public apology in order to keep their dealer from sending them packing, hat in hand.
Bob, you make it too easy......................................... :nopity :nopity :lurk
standby 10-22-2005, 10:30 AM Ignore list? No, I want eveyone to see just how easy it is to poke fun at you.
Does this little yellow school bus remind you of your school days, sorry I don't have a picture of the helmet you wore.
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/12/12_7_10v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm414YYUS) http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/18/18_1_5v.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm414YYUS) Well, what do you know, I found your old helmet for riding the bus, football reminds me of the negative comments you throw at everyone.
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_3_2.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm414YYUS) Have a nice weekend
Bob
PS.........Sorry folks, I just can't resist, IT"S SO EASY!
LOL and here I thought I was on the ignore list.....
mswaim 10-22-2005, 10:46 AM Yawn..........well folks, I CAN resist so we will leave it with an apology for picking on Bob, our very own geriatric version of Don Quixote, jousting at the front gate of Allen Cadillac. :glol
And as usual, history repeated itself:
Allen Cadillac = 1
Don Quixote = 0
standby 10-22-2005, 11:18 AM Wrong,
March, Don Quixote has a platinum V
mswaim= C-6...................can't catch me.
What is it about me that attracts idiots?
Yawn..........well folks, I CAN resist so we will leave it with an apology for picking on Bob,
When you turn off TC/Stabilitrak, can you get the words off the computer so you could still see your odometer instead of the words "Stabilitrak off". Has anyone thought of switching the XLR engine out with the new ZO6 engine?
upstate 10-23-2005, 09:03 AM This was suppose to be a thread about XLR tricks. Other than the first mentioned about traction control the rest is bull. Are there any other tricks or did we waste space with nothing? :sleep
standby 10-23-2005, 01:08 PM upstate,
I think you should address this comment at mswaim who insists on pouring salt in a wound.
This was suppose to be a thread about XLR tricks. Other than the first mentioned about traction control the rest is bull. Are there any other tricks or did we waste space with nothing? :sleep
GaryB 11-01-2005, 01:57 PM My 2004 XLR engine goes to ideal (RPM 1000) every time I step on the brake no matter what spead I am going. The car just "free wheels' down the road I then only have brakes to slow me down with no engine compression to assit in slowing down of the car. When I step back into the gas the RPN comes back up. I can not use the 5 speed gear shifter as I could on my 2002 Vett. I have been to the dealer, but they say that is the way it is. Can anybody help?
Quixotic 11-01-2005, 02:05 PM There is an update to the software. I complained that the automatic downshifting was a little too jerky and the update fixed it. It's possible your complaint is the opposite, that the downshift is too subtle. Ask your dealer if you have the latest update.
standby 11-01-2005, 02:41 PM Not true GaryB
I use my gate to slow my vehicle down all the time, even when I get off the gas the car is being slowed down by the engine. You need to press this issue with GM
Bob
My 2004 XLR engine goes to ideal (RPM 1000) every time I step on the brake no matter what spead I am going. The car just "free wheels' down the road I then only have brakes to slow me down with no engine compression to assit in slowing down of the car. When I step back into the gas the RPN comes back up. I can not use the 5 speed gear shifter as I could on my 2002 Vett. I have been to the dealer, but they say that is the way it is. Can anybody help?
harrysxlr 11-02-2005, 03:24 AM My 2004 XLR engine goes to ideal (RPM 1000) every time I step on the brake no matter what spead I am going. The car just "free wheels' down the road I then only have brakes to slow me down with no engine compression to assit in slowing down of the car. When I step back into the gas the RPN comes back up. I can not use the 5 speed gear shifter as I could on my 2002 Vett. I have been to the dealer, but they say that is the way it is. Can anybody help?
Hi GaryB,
my 2002 Vette had a six speed!!!! :glol
Hans
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