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: Nav System Crack Code


Bill N
10-10-2004, 09:11 AM
Has anyone come up with a crack code for the Nav System that will permit its' use while underway? Found the code for the DVD through this forum and it works great. (I may never use it but I hate being told by GM when I can and cannot use something) :flag Wondering now about the Nav. Would like my wife (passenger) at least to be able to use it while we're underway

motorboat
10-10-2004, 10:27 AM
What are you looking for when driving? You can still zoom out or in. Ask it were there is food, gas, gambling etc.

The thing I would like it to do is show more cross roads when you zoom out over 1/2 mile. If you are in the city its OK but if you are driving the back roads it will drop YOUR road you are on if you go over 1/2 mile. Also if you are planing a trip it only pick major roads NEVER any others.

Blaise :seeya

Bill N
10-10-2004, 03:59 PM
To tell you the truth I haven't got the hang of the hang of the voice request system yet. Guess I'll have to read up on it and practice

motorboat
10-10-2004, 07:58 PM
If the nav. system is on you can hit the switch on the left side of the steering wheel that shows a guy speaking and then say "I am hungry or restaurants" it will then display any restaurants that are near you. It will do the same thing if you say gas/fuel. There is a list of about 70 names/phrases I think that it knows. In your book there is a list and also a small card you can put in the arm rest to look at that has the list of names on it.
Try it you will like it...... :jester

Blaise :)

Mr XLR
10-10-2004, 10:56 PM
Blaise you are right to tell Bill N about the voice commands, it really makes finding various places simple. Actually with the XLR's Navigation Guide it will give you 170 voice commands you can learn.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank You
Allen

Quixotic
10-11-2004, 03:40 PM
My experience with the voice commands (paraphrasing):

me: "Radio on"
car: "Gas 1/4 mile ahead"
me: "Radio on"
car: "Chinese restaurant up ahead"
by now, I'm laughing so hard I have to pull over... then I turn the radio on.

1_XLR
10-11-2004, 03:56 PM
My experience with the voice commands (paraphrasing):

me: "Radio on"
car: "Gas 1/4 mile ahead"
me: "Radio on"
car: "Chinese restaurant up ahead"
by now, I'm laughing so hard I have to pull over... then I turn the radio on.

Here's my fovorite....works everytime.....

me: "delete POI"
car: "system is showing ski resort icons"

don't know how those two sound even remotly the same.....but it works!
there are no ski resorts, hence, POIs deleted!! :D

Others I use often, and work very well....
HOME...GAS....SCREEN OFF.....DELETE DESTINATION......

XLR I FL
10-13-2004, 01:04 PM
Mine is:

ME: GO TO AIRPORT or GO AIRPORT

CAR: System is displaying BANK ICONS.

ME: GO TO AIRPORT

CAR: SYSTEM IS CHECK DISK.

So like you back to the radio and maps.

WE SHOULD START A BOOK OF OUR FAVORITES

Regards

1_XLR
10-13-2004, 01:36 PM
I have actually had good success with it and use it frequently,
but you have to be very specific with what words/phrases are recgonized.

Oh, and when she dosen't understand,
yelling at her and adding foul words
to the phrase dosen't seem to help either! :nono

RADIO Commands:
RADIO
AM
FM1
FM2
CD CHANGER
WEATHER RADIO
POWER ON, POWER OFF
AUDIO ON, AUDIO OFF
SEEK UP, SEEK DOWN
STOP SCAN
CD CHANGER Commands:
TRACK UP, TRACK DOWN
PREVIOUS TRACK
Screen Commands:
SCREEN DAY MODE, SCREEN DAY MODE ON
SCREEN NIGHT MODE, SCREEN NIGHT MODE ON
SCREEN AUTO MODE, SCREEN AUTO MODE ON
SCREEN OFF
Position Commands:
CURRENT POSITION, CURRENT LOCATION
SHOW CURRENT LOCATION
MAP
MAP Commands:
ZOOM IN, ZOOM OUT
MAXIMUM SCALE
MINIMUM SCALE
HEADING UP, CHANGE TO HEADING UP
NORTH UP, CHANGE TO NORTH UP
MAP DIRECTION, CHANGE MAP DIRECTION
MARK, MARK THIS POINT
DESTINATION Commands:
HOME, GO HOME
GO TO STARTING POINT, PREVIOUS STARTING POINT
GUIDANCE Commands:
REPEAT GUIDANCE, REPEAT VOICE
LOUDER
SOFTER
VOICE GUIDANCE OFF
VOICE GUIDANCE ON
OPEN GUIDE, OPEN GUIDE SCREEN
CLOSE GUIDE, CLOSE GUIDE SCREEN
ARROW GUIDANCE, ARROW GUIDE
CHANGE TO ARROW GUIDE
TURN LIST GUIDANCE, TURN LIST GUIDE
CHANGE TO TURN LIST GUIDE
ENTIRE ROUTE, ENTIRE ROUTE MAP
REROUTE
DETOUR, DETOUR ENITRE ROUTE
DELETE DESTINATION, CANCEL DESTINATION
NEXT WAYPOINT MAP
FIRST WAYPOINT MAP
DESTINATION MAP
Points of Interest Commands:
I'M HUNGRY
RESTAURANT
AMERICAN RESTAURANT/FOOD
CHINESE RESTAURANT/FOOD
CONTINENTAL RESTAURANT/FOOD
FRENCH RESTAURANT/FOOD
ITALIAN RESTAURANT/FOOD
JAPANESE RESTAURANT/FOOD
MEXICAN RESTAURANT/FOOD
OTHER RESTAURANT/FOOD
SEAFOOD RESTAURANT/FOOD
SHOPPING, SHOPPING MALL
GROCERY STORE
GAS STATION, GAS
PARKING GARAGE
PARKING LOT
RENTAL CAR AGENCY
AUTOMOBILE CLUB, AAA
AUTO SERVICE, MAINTENANCE
HOTEL
GOLF COURSE
SKI RESORT, SKIING
AMUSEMENT PARK
SPORTS COMPLEX, STADIUM
CASINO
MARINA
TOURIST ATTRACTION
WINERY
CITY HALL
POLICE STATION
LIBRARY
HOSPITAL
PARKS & RECREATION
CIVIC CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER
CONVENTION CENTER, EXHIBITION CENTER
COURT HOUSE
TRAIN STATION
AIRPORT
BUS STATION
COMMUTER RAIL STATION
FERRY TERMINAL
PARK & RIDE
REST AREA, REST STOP
TOURIST INFORMATION
HISTORICAL MONUMENT
PERFORMING ARTS
MUSEUM
BANK
SCHOOL
ATM
UNIVERSITY, COLLEGE
CITY CENTER

Bill N
10-14-2004, 03:38 AM
Thanks to all of you. You have been a big help. This forum is terrific :)

Dadonator
10-14-2004, 12:00 PM
I have actually had good success with it and use it frequently,
but you have to be very specific with what words/phrases are recgonized.

Oh, and when she dosen't understand,
yelling at her and adding foul words
to the phrase dosen't seem to help either! :nono

RADIO Commands:
RADIO
AM
FM1
FM2
CD CHANGER
WEATHER RADIO
POWER ON, POWER OFF
AUDIO ON, AUDIO OFF
SEEK UP, SEEK DOWN
STOP SCAN
CD CHANGER Commands:
TRACK UP, TRACK DOWN
PREVIOUS TRACK
Screen Commands:
SCREEN DAY MODE, SCREEN DAY MODE ON
SCREEN NIGHT MODE, SCREEN NIGHT MODE ON
SCREEN AUTO MODE, SCREEN AUTO MODE ON
SCREEN OFF
Position Commands:
CURRENT POSITION, CURRENT LOCATION
SHOW CURRENT LOCATION
MAP
MAP Commands:
ZOOM IN, ZOOM OUT
MAXIMUM SCALE
MINIMUM SCALE
HEADING UP, CHANGE TO HEADING UP
NORTH UP, CHANGE TO NORTH UP
MAP DIRECTION, CHANGE MAP DIRECTION
MARK, MARK THIS POINT
DESTINATION Commands:
HOME, GO HOME
GO TO STARTING POINT, PREVIOUS STARTING POINT
GUIDANCE Commands:
REPEAT GUIDANCE, REPEAT VOICE
LOUDER
SOFTER
VOICE GUIDANCE OFF
VOICE GUIDANCE ON
OPEN GUIDE, OPEN GUIDE SCREEN
CLOSE GUIDE, CLOSE GUIDE SCREEN
ARROW GUIDANCE, ARROW GUIDE
CHANGE TO ARROW GUIDE
TURN LIST GUIDANCE, TURN LIST GUIDE
CHANGE TO TURN LIST GUIDE
ENTIRE ROUTE, ENTIRE ROUTE MAP
REROUTE
DETOUR, DETOUR ENITRE ROUTE
DELETE DESTINATION, CANCEL DESTINATION
NEXT WAYPOINT MAP
FIRST WAYPOINT MAP
DESTINATION MAP
Points of Interest Commands:
I'M HUNGRY
RESTAURANT
AMERICAN RESTAURANT/FOOD
CHINESE RESTAURANT/FOOD
CONTINENTAL RESTAURANT/FOOD
FRENCH RESTAURANT/FOOD
ITALIAN RESTAURANT/FOOD
JAPANESE RESTAURANT/FOOD
MEXICAN RESTAURANT/FOOD
OTHER RESTAURANT/FOOD
SEAFOOD RESTAURANT/FOOD
SHOPPING, SHOPPING MALL
GROCERY STORE
GAS STATION, GAS
PARKING GARAGE
PARKING LOT
RENTAL CAR AGENCY
AUTOMOBILE CLUB, AAA
AUTO SERVICE, MAINTENANCE
HOTEL
GOLF COURSE
SKI RESORT, SKIING
AMUSEMENT PARK
SPORTS COMPLEX, STADIUM
CASINO
MARINA
TOURIST ATTRACTION
WINERY
CITY HALL
POLICE STATION
LIBRARY
HOSPITAL
PARKS & RECREATION
CIVIC CENTER, COMMUNITY CENTER
CONVENTION CENTER, EXHIBITION CENTER
COURT HOUSE
TRAIN STATION
AIRPORT
BUS STATION
COMMUTER RAIL STATION
FERRY TERMINAL
PARK & RIDE
REST AREA, REST STOP
TOURIST INFORMATION
HISTORICAL MONUMENT
PERFORMING ARTS
MUSEUM
BANK
SCHOOL
ATM
UNIVERSITY, COLLEGE
CITY CENTER

Thanks for the list--having it in the office, made it easy to copy onto one page, and shring by 50% to a "quick reference card" which Cadillac should give you!

:yesnod

--Dadonator

1_XLR
10-14-2004, 12:56 PM
I had made a copy I keep in the side pocket for reference,
and to learn a new one now and then.

Motorboat mentioned a small card in our book,
but I haven't looked for it yet

Bill N
10-15-2004, 10:30 AM
I transferred the above list into an excel document, reduced the font and made my own card for the car

Thanks again :)

dewey
10-15-2004, 12:29 PM
I would like a code that would let me add an address while driving, Any chance?

Bill N
10-29-2004, 06:31 PM
Me too Dewey

Mr XLR
11-19-2004, 01:04 PM
There has been a lot of discussion about a code for the Nav System to input information while moving.


Let me say it simply, there is no code to activate the non highlighted buttons, the system does not work like the DVD viewing system.

The screen that is used for diagostic purposes and where many have input the code for the DVD viewing while in motion has no effect on the Nav System.

Let me also say that the ability of being able to view the DVD's while in motion is being corrected on future buid XLR's.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank You
Allen

Quixotic
11-19-2004, 04:20 PM
It's a shame that even when there is a passenger in the car, information cannot be entered into the NAV system. There is no good reason why a passenger should be locked out of the NAV system. As far as the DVD, well, that's another story, but it still seems the passenger should be able to take advantage of this.

XLRcited
11-23-2004, 08:05 PM
It is really ridiculous that Cadillac -- and other manufacturers -- do not allow user input to the navigation system when the car is rolling. In my humble opinion, this is simply a case of the lawyers running the company.

Even a Seville STS (circa 2000) would allow a user input with the car in motion to select nearest points of interest. This was quite handy when you were in a large city looking for a parking garage, for example. The not so perfect voice recognition system will display nearest parking lots or garages but it will not allow you to select one and have the system direct you to it without parking the car and going through a route definition.

Come on Cadillac -- this is one you owe us!

Bill

Mr XLR
12-01-2004, 10:22 PM
While moving you have 2 ways to continue use some of your nav systems features. In motion simply touch the screen while in map mode, your POI button will show up at the bottom of the screen. Depress the button and you are now in "Points of Interest" mode. The nav system is now operational to find places from restaurants to sports complexes.

2nd- While driving you can press the screen while in map mode, the screen will move in the direction of the press. You can continue scrolling on the map to get to your destination, once at the destination simply depress the marked button to store it in memory, the have the ability to go to that destination.

I have done this many times, as long as you know where you are going.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

thank you
Allen

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-04-2006, 10:41 PM
I came across the NAV pinout for the wiring harness in Cadillac Escalades and GM Hummers. The solution was placing a switch between the Vehicle Speed Signal (VSS) lead. When the circuit is broken, NAV input is allowed while driving. These vechiles also use DENSO NAV units.

standby
04-05-2006, 07:52 AM
Any pictures or directions to finding this harness and which wire? It seems I'm gong to have a bunch of rocker swtiches in my console before I get my V the way I want it.
Bob

1_XLR
04-05-2006, 08:39 AM
I came across the NAV pinout for the wiring harness in Cadillac Escalades and GM Hummers. The solution was placing a switch between the Vehicle Speed Signal (VSS) lead. When the circuit is broken, NAV input is allowed while driving. These vechiles also use DENSO NAV units.

Why a switch?
can the circuit be left open?

standby
04-05-2006, 08:43 AM
NO message

standby
04-05-2006, 08:46 AM
Sure, the computer would register this as an open circuit and GM might want to mess with your warranty, same as the baffle switch............Switch is best & I would want the choice.

1_XLR
04-05-2006, 09:00 AM
Sure, the computer would register this as an open circuit and GM might want to mess with your warranty, same as the baffle switch............Switch is best & I would want the choice.

I would think you would have more warrenty issues if you installed a switch, than you would if the circuit happened to come undone.
But I would guess that the system not knowing the vehicle speed would effect many opperations.

we'll just need more info as to exactly where this VSS lead is.

alk3997
04-05-2006, 11:55 AM
I came across the NAV pinout for the wiring harness in Cadillac Escalades and GM Hummers. The solution was placing a switch between the Vehicle Speed Signal (VSS) lead. When the circuit is broken, NAV input is allowed while driving. These vechiles also use DENSO NAV units.

This may be a silly question, but if the VSS indicates speed then when a GPS signal is not available will the inertial navigation part of the nav system still work? The nav system depends on the vehicle speed to extrapollate the vehicle position until the GPS signal returns. Of course, if all VSS does is provide a flag to indicate when the vehicle is moving for display lock-out purposes then it shouldn't matter.

I guess the only way to test would be to install the switch and disable VSS, then block the GPS signal (disconnect antenna) and see if the XLR still accurately tracks its current position.

Andy

1_XLR
04-05-2006, 12:20 PM
Andy,
do you think vehicle speed may only be relavent to the system for inertial navigation?(other than a lock-out purpose) Does the GPS signal get lost often/long enough that it would really matter?

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-05-2006, 01:43 PM
Appears that the VSS helps maintain navigation when a GPS signal is lost. It has been done on the Hummers and Escalades with no reported problems. Some owners have opted just just leave an open circuit and others use a switch. Switch seems like a smart move just to ensure normal operation. Here is the pinout from what they used. I cannot assure you it is the same pinout as in the XLR.http://www.todiki.com/mem/walkingonair][img]http://www.todiki.com/mem/walkingonair/radioplug_(Medium).jpg

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-05-2006, 01:44 PM
Forum didn't like my image. Here is the URL
http://www.todiki.com/mem/walkingonair/radioplug_(Medium).jpg

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-05-2006, 01:48 PM
The VSS lead is only spliced at the back of the NAV unit on the wire harness. Should have no relevance to speedometer, etc.

1_XLR
04-05-2006, 01:59 PM
Forum didn't like my image. Here is the URL
http://www.todiki.com/mem/walkingonair/radioplug_(Medium).jpg

Great!
Thanks for all the info:thumbs

alk3997
04-05-2006, 03:51 PM
Andy,
do you think vehicle speed may only be relavent to the system for inertial navigation?(other than a lock-out purpose) Does the GPS signal get lost often/long enough that it would really matter?

The way a GPS/INS (Inertial Navigation System) works is that GPS satellites provide velocity, acceleration and time updates to the car. The GPS unit then uses that information to generate the vehicle position, knowing the orbit of each transmitting satellite. Our Infiniti has a display that shows the current orbital positions of each of the satellites overhead - very neat. Two recognized satellite positions with good data allows the system to compute lat/long, while a third satellite position is enough to compute altitude.

Anyway, GPS transmits on L-Band. L-Band does not have rain fade problems (the military likes that) but is lost with pretty much any sizable structure blocking the signal. I'm sure almost everyone has noticed that there is no GPS signal in their garage. Tall buildings can block signals as can overpasses, large trees, etc.

It is during these times that the Nav system down-modes to inertial navigation. It uses a speed sensor and gyroscope combination to determine how far you've moved from the last good GPS data point. The gyro simply determines how many turns you've made, while the speed sensor says how fast you are moving and therefore how far you have moved.

The system also uses the map to make it appear more accurate. If you make a left turn and the street you are turning onto is still 10 feet away by the map, then the system updates your position based on the assumption that you wouldn't turn *and then continue to drive* off-road, when there was a perfectly good road 10 feet to the right.

The bottom line is that yes velocity (speed) information is important and the GPS signal is not always available. For "fun", try driving in circles in a downtown parking garage. That is all done by INS rather than GPS, since the GPS signal won't reach.

BTW, all of this is public domain knowledge.

Andy

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-05-2006, 04:25 PM
Welcome for the info. Just installed a switch on an '03 Escalade EXT last night with no problems to report. I would further investigate the XLR setup, but I am out of state for the next month without my XLR.

1_XLR
04-05-2006, 04:42 PM
Sounds as though there better be a switch to keep the Nav accurate.


Just hope I don't hit the Electric Blower switch when I'm trying to find my way:eek
....or is that switch my Exhaust Baffels??:glol

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-05-2006, 07:26 PM
FYI - The diagram I posted denotes the VSS as a Dark Green/White wire. Notice that there is also another DGr/W wire that is the right positive audio signal. Make sure you clip the correct lead. Its nothing a coupler cant fix though :D

standby
04-05-2006, 07:48 PM
Do you have any idea how many people on this sight would buy this information, Hey, don't get any ideas. Ever since the code break on the 04 XLR's we have been wrestling with this problem.
I have one question and it's probably the toughest one.
How do we get to this harness without using a hand grenade. Most of these panels pop off if you know how. Any help would sure be appreciated by all.
Bob

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-05-2006, 08:13 PM
Do you have any idea how many people on this sight would buy this information, Hey, don't get any ideas. Ever since the code break on the 04 XLR's we have been wrestling with this problem.
I have one question and it's probably the toughest one.
How do we get to this harness without using a hand grenade. Most of these panels pop off if you know how. Any help would sure be appreciated by all.
Bob

Yeah it's always a pain to access behind the dash. I'm guessing it is a pretty tight working area behind the head unit. Sorry I can't provide any first hand info for the next month.

standby
04-05-2006, 10:30 PM
Are you going to dive into this project? if so, please keep notes
Bob

1_XLR
04-06-2006, 08:44 AM
I went at it last night, and when I finally reached into the tool box for the hand granade, I decided to back off. There's no short cuts in from the back, and the full frontal assult was getting me too uncomfortable without knowing what the hell I was doing.
It would be nice if we could find this VSS lead at a more accessable location.

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-06-2006, 11:22 AM
I went at it last night, and when I finally reached into the tool box for the hand granade, I decided to back off. There's no short cuts in from the back, and the full frontal assult was getting me too uncomfortable without knowing what the hell I was doing.
It would be nice if we could find this VSS lead at a more accessable location.

That doesn't sound promising. The face trim wouldn't pop out? In my experience GM dashs are made to pop out when applying a little leverage.

1_XLR
04-06-2006, 12:10 PM
That doesn't sound promising. The face trim wouldn't pop out? In my experience GM dashs are made to pop out when applying a little leverage.

got the face trim off....that's about the time I bailed!

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-06-2006, 05:24 PM
got the face trim off....that's about the time I bailed!

I requested dash removal instructions from a GM Tech. Will post any reply to the topic.

standby
04-06-2006, 06:52 PM
that's a start

standby
04-06-2006, 06:55 PM
Yea, like the lead for the baffles, maybe SP3 will find out when he gets the specs.

wreindol
04-06-2006, 08:41 PM
Back about post # 9 in this thread you mentioned that you had pretty good results with the voice recognition system. Was curious if your new V is better, worse, or the same in regards to the voice system. Would also like to hear from anyone else that got a newer vehicle and would compare the two.
Thanks
Wayne

1_XLR
04-07-2006, 08:49 AM
Back about post # 9 in this thread you mentioned that you had pretty good results with the voice recognition system. Was curious if your new V is better, worse, or the same in regards to the voice system. Would also like to hear from anyone else that got a newer vehicle and would compare the two.
Thanks
Wayne

wow , had to scroll way down, didn't know we were on such an old thread.

Worse
....so far, The bioch can't understand nothing..... so we argue alot!
I get POI's on the map that are not what I want, and it's not worth the fight to get them off
The easiest "home" command takes half a dozen tries:banghead

That said, I haven't used it much, and I'm not sure if just hasn't been trained enough yet, as my last one was.

wreindol
04-07-2006, 11:19 AM
Thanks for the input. I have an 05 and I am not impressed with the voice recognition. I thought there might have been an upgrade along the way where someone might have noticed an improvement.
Wayne

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-12-2006, 02:20 AM
Sorry guys, no response on dash removal. Maybe your local car stereo shop would be happy to oblige. Will post any updates following my return to cali.

standby
04-12-2006, 07:15 AM
The biggest problem with voice recognition is...................They don't allow for wind noise or people talking in the background or dialects in speech or if your excited or smoking a joint.:nono :nono :glol :glol :glol :glol
Bob


Thanks for the input. I have an 05 and I am not impressed with the voice recognition. I thought there might have been an upgrade along the way where someone might have noticed an improvement.
Wayne

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-22-2006, 05:41 PM
Ok guys so I got to my XLR this weekend. 1_XLR was definitely right about needing a hand grenade. Finally got the dash apart and access to the wire harnesses. There are three main ones. I pulled 2 of them which yielded no success. The third is the power supply along with other leads on it (which hopefully contains the VSS lead). I am trying to get the pinout for the Denso unit. Sit tight guys hopefully we will have a solution soon.

Brian

standby
04-22-2006, 08:11 PM
What a way to spend ones weekend, but I do applaud you.:thumbs

Ok guys so I got to my XLR this weekend. 1_XLR was definitely right about needing a hand grenade. Finally got the dash apart and access to the wire harnesses. There are three main ones. I pulled 2 of them which yielded no success. The third is the power supply along with other leads on it (which hopefully contains the VSS lead). I am trying to get the pinout for the Denso unit. Sit tight guys hopefully we will have a solution soon.

Brian

SP3CIALBL3ND
04-26-2006, 04:39 PM
Thanks Standby. If anyone can get ahold of an install manual for our denso unit it would be most useful.

deadringer
04-27-2006, 09:12 AM
I requested dash removal instructions from a GM Tech. Will post any reply to the topic.

Removing the NAV unit is easy, I've done it several times on my 06 XLR-V to install various things.


First off, you need to open the armrest storage door and leave it open.

Pop off the trip piece around the base of the shift nob by gripping it tightly and pushing down towards the center console. This should expose a Torx screw that faces the rear of the car.

Then you need to get a T-15 Torx driver and losen the torx screw at the base of the shift nob. Once its lose, you can pull the nob straight up and out.

Once the nob is removed, you can then pop the top of the shift console off. Its pushed into place with retaining clips, and its on there tight, but if you pull hard enough it will come up and out. DO NOT USE A SCREWDRIVER to pry it open, as it will dent and mar the aluminum trim if you do. I simply used my fingers to pry it off.

You can now disconnect all the wires from the bottom of that piece so you can put that panel away and keep it from getting scratched.

Once that panel is put away, you can now pry off the front trim by prying it off the same way you did for the console trim. Once again, I wouldn't use any tools as it will probably damage it.

The only wire attached to the front trim should be for the hazard light switch, once you remove that you can put that panel away.

Now you should see four 10mm bolts holding the radio in place. Remove those four bolts, and the whole NAV and CD-Changer assembly should slide right out, and you can now get to the rear of the head unit without problems.


I can complete this whole procedure in about 7 mins, its not a big deal... i've probably done it four times to my own car.

Good luck.

standby
04-27-2006, 03:04 PM
Boy, I printed that one out. Nice going. I love this forum

deadringer
04-27-2006, 05:24 PM
Boy, I printed that one out. Nice going. I love this forum

I should also mention that you cannot remove the front trip panel without remove the shift console trim first.

Well, I suppose anything is possible, but its clear that it was meant to be dissambled that way.

Also, you may need to move the shift lever so it makes enough room to remove the front trim panel. I've gotten good enough to where I don't have to do that, but the first few times you may need the extra room to dissassemble or reassemble it.

One last thing - when you put everything together, make sure you get the wire from the hazard switch put back properly. sometimes the wire will get caught in the AC vent control and proceed to keep it from operating once everything back together.

1_XLR
04-28-2006, 08:03 AM
Removing the NAV unit is easy, I've done it several times on my 06 XLR-V to install various things.

.

what have you installed, anyway?

deadringer
04-28-2006, 09:30 AM
what have you installed, anyway?

At one point I had the Hardan Karmon Drive+Play system installed - but I didn't like the way it sounded when installed via the in-line FM Modulator. (first)

And inorder for that to work correctly, I had to into get RAP power working, so I had to install a GMRAP module. (2nd)

Then I had a problem where the air vents weren't working right becuase the hazard wires got caught, so I had to take it apart (again) to fix it. (3rd)

And then I removed it all, becuase the iPod interface I bought from GMGEEK works so much better. (forth)

XLR28
06-12-2006, 07:28 PM
All,

Here is the Radio Pinout from the service manual for my 2005 XLR. Hopefully it helps. Any other look ups just let me know.

Ben.

aviator
06-12-2006, 08:44 PM
I had to dig through this nearly 2 year old thread to figure out what this switch is all about.

So you guys are pulling your whole dash apart so you can input destinations while you are moving?

I will say, you guys are nothng if not tenacious.

Its the principle of the thing, right? You couldn't be saving yourself time?

What bugs me about the GPS is the way it chooses routings. Sometimes it takes you on the damndest joyrides. Bizarre routings.

I will say the GPS on my 05 Escalade is far superior to the one I had on the 04 XLR. I did have the buttons get out of calibration, and thought by pressing harder on the touch screen, it would relieve my frustration. Cra-a-ak! now that was a mess. Got a new GPS.

I will watch his thread with interest....

Did they improve the GPS in the V?

tim harris
06-13-2006, 03:45 AM
Same GPS in the V as in my 05 XLR. In my opnion the best unit was in my 05 Escalade , the one in my 07 Escade is no where near as good. Tim

aviator
06-13-2006, 02:12 PM
In my opnion the best unit was in my 05 Escalade , the one in my 07 Escade is no where near as good. Tim

That doesn't sound good. What changed with the GPS?

Did they fix the "memory seats"? In most Caddy's use of your numbered key fob puts the seat, steering wheel, mirrors and climate setting.

On my 05, you must push the button every time to get the seat to move.

I'm up for an 07 Escalade in about six months

jamsto
06-13-2006, 04:42 PM
We got the 07 Escalade today. Many great changes from the 05. You will love it.

tim harris
06-14-2006, 05:11 AM
FOB,s not numbered| GPS missing many features you got use to ,such as clock connnected to GPS signal. Neither clock holds set time, but at least in the 05 you never had to question the clock being correct, because of the GPS interface--not any longer. Programing destinations seems more taxing and no distinations are displayed on screen, icons only. POI info pops up even when shut off---not a clean looking screen. Radio info takes over screen, even when making small changes to the sound system,(not user freindly radio system). Make sure you use 5.1 Digital CD,S sound is awsome in this mode. Over all-- Nav System is a disapointment. Reguards , Tim.

xlrjunkie
06-25-2006, 11:04 AM
do u still have the code for the dvd??? may I have it.

1_XLR
06-26-2006, 08:05 AM
do u still have the code for the dvd??? may I have it.


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