tHE LEFT FUEL TANK? THEN THE RIGHT? THEN THE COOLANT? THEN THE ENGINE BELT? THEN THE FUEL PUMP? I MEAN COME ONE GUYS?!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR CARS? MY CAR HAS ONLY 24K KMS ONLY!!! OH I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE MOTOR THAT MOVES THE PASSENGER SEAT/CHAIR NEEDS REPLACEMENT AS WELL!!! I AM GOING CRAZY AND NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE IN GM!!!
REGARDS,,,,
I AM JUST FED UP WITH THE XLR!!!!!!

P.S. I HAVE ALL THE NECESSARY DOCUMENTS TO SUPPORT MY CLAIMS!!!!!!!!!!!!

tHE LEFT FUEL TANK? THEN THE RIGHT? THEN THE COOLANT? THEN THE ENGINE BELT? THEN THE FUEL PUMP? I MEAN COME ONE GUYS?!!! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOUR CARS? MY CAR HAS ONLY 24K KMS ONLY!!! OH I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT THE MOTOR THAT MOVES THE PASSENGER SEAT/CHAIR NEEDS REPLACEMENT AS WELL!!! I AM GOING CRAZY AND NO ONE SEEMS TO CARE IN GM!!!
REGARDS,,,,
I AM JUST FED UP WITH THE XLR!!!!!!

Silver, I have an 04 that when I bought it it had 3 pages of call backs so much so the original owner had GM buy it back! It did not bother me as by the time I picked it up 4 pages of repairs and call backs were done. I have the car 2 yrs now and drove it 10K.It now has 28K mi and I took it back once for a 2nd round of headlight replacenemts no other problems have come up as most were all weak parts that were replaced.
Being a car guy with Rolls Bentlys and Porsches I understand repairs. The best advice is drive the car often and never let it sit more than 2-3 weeks never start it up and let run and then put it away. If you take some time you can go on here and find all of the little deamons that need to be replaced and when its at the dealer insist that all the GM call backs were completed thats a good start. They really are good cars like all thing though "whatever is put together, will eventually fall apart" ! Good luck jim F

Silver, I have an 04 that when I bought it it had 3 pages of call backs so much so the original owner had GM buy it back! It did not bother me as by the time I picked it up 4 pages of repairs and call backs were done. I have the car 2 yrs now and drove it 10K.It now has 28K mi and I took it back once for a 2nd round of headlight replacenemts no other problems have come up as most were all weak parts that were replaced.
Being a car guy with Rolls Bentlys and Porsches I understand repairs. The best advice is drive the car often and never let it sit more than 2-3 weeks never start it up and let run and then put it away. If you take some time you can go on here and find all of the little deamons that need to be replaced and when its at the dealer insist that all the GM call backs were completed thats a good start. They really are good cars like all thing though "whatever is put together, will eventually fall apart" ! Good luck jim F
I agree with rufcar.

My 2004 has been outstanding after the initial items were fixed.

If replacing the passenger seat motor will fix all of your remaining repair issues then you are nearly done. It's a 1 hour job.

Regards

Jerry

Lasting and effective warranty repairs start with trained and knowledgeable technicians and a dealer network that cares about the customer...I don't think that Dubai has anyone capable or caring enough to get your repairs done correctly.
Blaming the car or GM makes no sense as many others HERE (US) get things repaired and the cars run properly (rufcars' statement). It it is just a matter of a competent dealer network. Have you tried a different country? :skep

Elfred

P.S. Your topic title needs a little polishing....

Look, I have a 2006 with over 55k miles on it (other than the initial 2500 by the woman who bought it waiting until the V series came out they are all mine and I've owned it since the car was 8 months old).

Other than for oil changes/brakes/tires, etc which are all a component of driving the car a lot I'm typically into the dealer about 2x a year - can't complain about that.

I think what you're really experiencing is one of two things (a) location as was astutely mentioned, or (b) bad luck on the one you got, but as noted by someone earlier - once you work through these the car will be a beauty.

You can find similiar examples at Mercedes, BMW, and definitely your more high end cars as well...personally I love my car, and so does everyone else who sees it.

Good luck!

The 04 had several issues but most of them if not all have a solution that your dealer should have access to.

Good luck,

SilverX

We also have had many problems with our 04. The key is to have an excellent warranty and to have a Dealership with a certified XLR mechanic to take care of you! Sounds like you do not have the capable hands to work on yours, warranty should cover all the issues.
We have been problem free for a long time, I am happy to say, but we did have a rough time in the beginning. I guess the love for the car and the fact that everything was taken care of better than I could have asked for by our Dealership was terrific.
Good luck!
Mea

Well... Thanks all for your replies. Can you imagine just spending at least $ 10k from your own pocket just to try to fix all these issues? And in the end, the same problems just appear again and again. lLike for example, 8 months ago, I experienced some problems with the top; the sensors were replaced and now i am having the same problem again and i will pay for it from my own pocket!

Bro you've got yourself a lemon! Trade that 04 in on a shiney brand new 09. Problems solved. I had all kinds of electrical problems with my brand new 05 Corvette. I got tired of taking it back to the dealer to get it repaired. So I ordered a loaded 08 Corvette. No more problems. The problems that you and I encountered with our rides are typical of cars in there first year of production. 04 was the first year for the XLR and 05 was the first year for the 6th generation Corvette. Generally it takes a manufacturer at least one year to work out all the bugs. :yesnod

I have said it before....you are in a 3rd world country..things are different
there, sorry but true. You can build a ski slope in the middle of the dessert, but you can't fix an american car..........DA

Well... Thanks all for your replies. Can you imagine just spending at least $ 10k from your own pocket just to try to fix all these issues? And in the end, the same problems just appear again and again. lLike for example, 8 months ago, I experienced some problems with the top; the sensors were replaced and now i am having the same problem again and i will pay for it from my own pocket!
SilverXLR2004:

I am not familiar with the conversion of 24k kms to miles BUT ALL of what you have mentioned should be covered under the origional factory warranty. 4 years 50k miles. So if you paid $10k to any GM dealer to fix these issues you should be asking for your money back.

Also I would park the car in the GM dealer and register the issues again. If you continue to have reoccuring problems with the same components they are generally covered by the factory as well.

SO MY VOTE IS OFF TO THE DEALER ASAP!!!

Good luck!!

Having closely read your troubled posts over the past year, (I have an '04 as well) it is more than apparent that:

a) There aren't many XLRs in Dubai.
b) There are even fewer good XLR mechanics than bad XLRs in Dubai.
c) Your dealership is incompetent and unable to honor your warranty.
d) Your dealership made an extra $10k on the sale of your car.

Cars do not suck --per se, but they do draw in air for combustion, vacuum and ventilation purposes. They are mechanical, and as such can and will break down and require unscheduled maintenance. The XLR is a very complex machine, so simple statistics dictate its chances of having a failure are greater than most other cars. That being said, the vehicle's design was tested prior to full-scale manufacturing looking for failure-prone components and design flaws long before the assembly line was set up. The system isn't perfect, but it catches more issues than it misses.

GM loses money on warranty repairs (as well as customer satisfaction, ie: repeat customers) so it is in their best interests to build cars that spend the majority of their time in your loving garage, -not theirs. In the 70s, American cars were built with timers that calculated the warranty period, then automatically loosend every nut and bolt on the vehicle, while illuminating the CHECK ENGINE LIGHT whenever the ignition key was turned. We built crap that begged the Japanese to outbuild us. Cars are more reliable now, but they still break down at the most inconvenient times.

Sure, the '04s in general had more issues than the '05's and later, but that is normal on a first-year build. The majority of the problems (with the exception of the radiators) were relatively minor in nature and easily repaired.

We have all owned a car at one time or another that seemed "cursed" and developed a new problem as soon as an old one was fixed. At least these days, diagnosis is much more reliable and less time-consuming with the built-in diagnosis hardware and software available. Your car in particular seems to get worse every time the shop starts to monkey (--this word was chosen quite deliberately) with it.

Dubai is a wonderful country blessed with great oil wealth, progressive leadership and a clear vision of where it wants to be when the oil wealth eventually dries up. But while most of the management positions within its corporate heirarchy are staffed by nationals, lots of the wrench-turning jobs are performed by foreigners, many of whom come from countries whose main export are people seeking a better life. They may not be highly educated, but they'll work til they drop.

I have to assume the GM dealership there employs mechanics that are certified and trained in Europe. Are you satisfied with the quality of the workmanship you have received? Does the dealership employ an XLR certified mechanic? Have you spoken with him? When you move an extended finger back and forth in front of his face, do both eyes track it or does one veer off to the side?

Until the dealership steps up to the plate and hits a home run to make you happy, I would forego forking over your hard-earned money and pay them with bananas instead. Just my .02, I could be wrong.

CC :seeya

CC,
You are right in so many ways, but there is a very interesting twist regarding the warranty. If his XLR was not designed for that country, there is no warranty involved. Cars designed for the US are eligible for warranty repairs in the US and Canada, not other countries.

The XLR is sold in many other countries through official GM channels, but those vehicles are built for and approved with the many various modifications that particular country requires to meet validation.

If an individual took an XLR designed for the US and shipped it to another country, or purchased it through non GM channels, that vehicle would be void of any warranty.

It's not really different than even in the US. If I order a vehicle with the Federal emission standard, that vehicle can't be sold into California or the 7 northeast states. Those area have a different emission system and it could not be registered in those states.

25 Years ago, I dated a girl from Lima Peru, her father had a Ford Granada shipped from Florida to his home in Peru. He had to pay for every service visit at his local Ford dealer, as a non South American built vehicle did not have an eligible warranty.

It's basically considered a gray market vehicle when a car is not built for that country, thus having no warranty from the mfg.


www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)
Thanks
Allen

Thanks for teaching me something new today Allen; insight like yours is why I roam the various forums.

Now I have something new to ponder regarding any future move to Tibet when it comes to transportation and warranty repair issues. I think I would lease a yak.


Kudos Kulbersh.

CC :cheers

Well, my xlr is desinged for the arabs who don't deserve it. i bought my xlr in july 2007. it had only 200 kms only!!! but it was 2004 model. it was offered for $40 k dollars and the warranty was already expired. ANYWAYS, I DONT CARE ANYMORE NOW BECAUSE THESE COUNTRIES, NO MATTER HOW MUCH OIL OR WEALTH THEY HAVE , THEY ARE STILL THE THIRD WORLD.... WONDERING WHY? BECAUSE THEY HAVE THE BEDOUIN'S MENTALITY... THAT'S IT! THESE PEOPLE DONT KNOW THE VALUE OF THE MONEY.

CC,
You are right in so many ways, but there is a very interesting twist regarding the warranty. If his XLR was not designed for that country, there is no warranty involved. Cars designed for the US are eligible for warranty repairs in the US and Canada, not other countries.

The XLR is sold in many other countries through official GM channels, but those vehicles are built for and approved with the many various modifications that particular country requires to meet validation.

If an individual took an XLR designed for the US and shipped it to another country, or purchased it through non GM channels, that vehicle would be void of any warranty.

It's not really different than even in the US. If I order a vehicle with the Federal emission standard, that vehicle can't be sold into California or the 7 northeast states. Those area have a different emission system and it could not be registered in those states.

25 Years ago, I dated a girl from Lima Peru, her father had a Ford Granada shipped from Florida to his home in Peru. He had to pay for every service visit at his local Ford dealer, as a non South American built vehicle did not have an eligible warranty.

It's basically considered a gray market vehicle when a car is not built for that country, thus having no warranty from the mfg.


www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)
Thanks
Allen

Thats why I waited to buy a 06, till alot of the problems surfaced & fixed.

:jester:cheers I had an 2004 XLR and enjoyed it quite a bit, but I didn't like the color "silver" so one day on a trip and going through dallas I spotted a red 05 in the window, should have not stopped to look at it. traded on the spot and continued on my trip back to WV. my 05 was a great car until 09. my top would not go up. took it in to a local dealer and he kept it from sept. to april. by the way the day my top messed up was the day my warranty was up. how lucky can you get. I travel south in the winter in my motorhome so it was no big deal for them to kept it. they ordered a computer box for it. didn't fix it. ordered another one and that fixed it. the dealer had a problem getting parts, I contacted GM and they assisted in getting the parts. no problems with the lights as of now, car has 40k and new set of tires. :cheers
winter time is coming , so back to the warm southwest for the winter. if anyone would like a great set of pipes for the XLR, I took a set of corsa or borla off my XLR after one year in great condition. not sure of make as I haven't seen them for three years. stored in my garage. half price of new set. $900.00. if anyone needs them.

BUDSVET - I'm interested in your pipes. Can you get precision on what brand and model they are? I'd like to see some images, either on line or posted photos. Why did you take them off the car?

I took them off my 2005 XLR in 2006 as I was going as I was going to sell it. they are corsa and in very good shape. I have a sale pending. the shipping cost is what is holding the sale up. they are already box and ready to be shipped

I have a 2007 xlr and in the last year at around 38,000 miles the following have failed and have been replaced under warranty. The car has averaged 2 weeks per month at the dealer. They are as follows: Radiator, water pump, power steering pump, gas tank, aerial module, trans module, cruise control module, push buttons on the right and left of the instrument panel, trans clutches and seals, hood supports, front shocks, stabilizer parts and rear spring. I replaced the brakes and the cracked wheel well covers and i cleaned up the white rubber window moldings.
After all of this i still love my xlr.

I have a 2007 and I have had about every computer replaced,the gas tanks, water pump, radiator, battery, many push buttons, rear spring and many more things, but I still love my XLR and would not trade it for anything. If you have the warranty you just take it in to the dealer and a day or 2 it is back like new and I had a new Cadillac to play with while it was in for service.