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: Adaptive Cruise Control


Mr XLR
06-06-2004, 09:51 PM
I was wondering what everyone thinks of the Adaptive cruise control on their XLR. Please choose a answer that best describes your thoughts.

Thank You
Allen

motorboat
06-07-2004, 06:38 PM
I votoed FOR the Adaptaive cruise. BUTTTTT
I would like for GM to change the way it accelerates after the vehicle in front of you moves out of the way or you make a pass, by this I mean if you have the cruise set for 75 and come up behind a slower car that is only going 63 mph the XLR will slow down as it should till it gets to 63 mph but if you then move out to make the pass the XLR will jump "accelerate" just as fast as it can to get back up to 75 mph when it does not "see" anything in front of it any longer.
I am getting used to it but wife would like to see it accelerate just a little slower. I know, I know I should pass sooner but some times you have to wait to pass.
I still love the system and would like to have it on all my vehicles even if they can't change it... :thumbs

Troy Roberts
06-08-2004, 06:15 AM
New option added at request of Mr. XLR. Option #3 is new.

"I would prefer a standard cruise control system"

If you have placed a vot ealready and ouwl like to modify it to be a vote for the new option please send me a private message telling me your old vote and your decision to vote for the new one.

Thanks.

alk3997
06-08-2004, 12:16 PM
This is probably going to go under the "you can't please everyone" category...

While motorboat would like the adaptive cruise to accelerate less, I would like to see if accelerate quicker in one instance. I use the adaptive cruise on local roads as well. I figure it is good to have two of "us" braking instead of one.

When someone is getting ready to make a right turn onto another street, they (normally) slow down. The XLR will also slow down. As soon as the other car has cleared the street I would like to have the XLR come back up to speed a bit quicker than it does. There is a lag before it starts to accelerate and the acceleration isn't very agressive for a few seconds. It would be nice if it could more closely mimic a driver in that instance.

However, that is a minor complaint and I can understand the difficulties of knowing when to accelerate in that situation.

aviator
09-13-2004, 10:26 AM
I use it all the time but have the same comment at alk3997. I wish it would pick up a little faster after an "adaptive" deceleration.

It does a good job of following 2 seconds behind the vehicle it is tracking. Or it can be adjusted to follow further back.

The only problem in Houston is if you follow 2 seconds back, three cars squeeze in the gap! :cuss :banghead

1_XLR
09-13-2004, 02:22 PM
Does not pick up Motorcycles!! :eek

Terry_Fiskin
09-13-2004, 06:01 PM
I like it enought to order it on my next STS even though it cists a mint

Cali XLR
09-20-2004, 11:32 PM
I just took delivery of my 2005. I've only used it a few times but I think this is a fantastic safety feature and it gives you something to look at in the HUD.

Regarding the HUD. Does anything other than the speedometer appear in the HUD?

Eyedoc
09-21-2004, 06:07 AM
There are quite a few things that appear in the HUD:

1. Adaptive Cruise control show you when it detects a car ahead, and shows the following distance and collision warning
2. Turn signals
3. Gear, when using manual
4. Some messages, "Check Gauges" which will lead you to DIC and further messages

What else did I miss, guys?

Mr XLR
09-22-2004, 11:00 PM
From EyeDoc:

There are quite a few things that appear in the HUD:

1. Adaptive Cruise control show you when it detects a car ahead, and shows the following distance and collision warning
2. Turn signals
3. Gear, when using manual
4. Some messages, "Check Gauges" which will lead you to DIC and further messages

EyeDoc,
you did a great job on mentioning the features displayed on the HUD except for:
Radio Controls -
Band & station call letters
C/D # & track information

Along with Adaptive features above you also get:
Your cruise set speed
Tight Curve ahead warning

Please remember one important factor that your sales specialist should have pointed out, that you should NOT wear Polarized sunglasses. The polarizing effect actually takes appart the layering of the HUD and will make the speedometer invisible.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank You
Allen

migsgig
09-23-2004, 10:25 AM
Good call on the glasses, Allen! I learned the hard way by buying $350 glasses that impaired my ability to see the HUD!! I'm now a proud owner of
"HUD Specific" $45 shades!!
migsgig :cool

Dadonator
09-23-2004, 10:39 AM
I too wear Rx Polarized lenses, but have found that if you set Brightness & Contrast to Maximum, you can see everything (button just above radio power knob).

It takes 5 seconds or less to adjust, once you get used to it.

--Dadonator :cool

Eyedoc
09-23-2004, 11:03 AM
Just some input from me - polarization works in such a way that the angle that you view the object at can make lots of difference.

The sitting height and more directly the viewing location (of your eyes) could result in one person with polaroid glasses being able to see the HUD and someone else not.

Not personally a big believer in polaroid lenses, unless you are skiing (water or snow), where you do get lots of reflective light. No a great deal of reflective light in most driving activities.

Whatever works - there may be an explanation for each.

Dadonator
09-23-2004, 11:22 AM
I sold my Catalina 42' sailboat, that's why I bought the polarized Rx lenses. Now that I've gotten used to them--I just love the way everything looks in them on a sunny day, the colors are so much more clear and vivid--I don't want to go back to "regular" shades.

I did have trouble with the nav computer on the boat though--XLR's screen is bright enough that it works for me though.

--Dadonator

Quixotic
09-23-2004, 02:44 PM
Radio Controls -
Band & station call letters
C/D # & track information

Am I missing something? I don't remember seeing this stuff.

Mr XLR
09-23-2004, 11:24 PM
Dadonator,
I think you are talking about the Nav/Radio display, where I was describing the Hud projection on the windshield. First let me say that I show each client to go to the "music note/menu button right above the volume knob as you pointed out. If someone needs some extra brightness or contrast in the display they can adjust the two sliders farther to the right.

yes, you can still leave it in "Auto" mode and it will dim when the lights come on in the evening, but return to your previously set day mode when driving in the daylight.

Quixotic:
When you are viewing the HUD and changing your radio stations, those changes are displayed in the HUD. Yes it does tell you which C/D track you are switching too.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank You
Allen

Eyedoc
09-24-2004, 08:02 AM
Allen - The radio/CD displays only stay on for a moment, right?

I look sometimes and they are there and then they are gone, right after to make a change.

Mr XLR
09-25-2004, 06:52 AM
EyeDoc,
Yes, the radio displays will show up on the HUD for about 3 seconds. I have actually given up looking at the IP (dash). For me, the nav display would be great on the HUD as well. Could you imagine! People would be driving off the roads directly in to rivers and golf greens.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank you
Allen

alk3997
09-27-2004, 10:58 AM
Allen, that is one of the items I would have liked to have seen on the HUD. Not the whole map (too confusing) but the next turn direction on the bottom of the HUD when using map guidance would have been nice. A single line with something like (edited to fit on HUD) ...

LEFT <-- 0.5 MILES

Andy

Quixotic
09-27-2004, 01:20 PM
Andy,

Great Idea!

Rich

aviator
09-28-2004, 10:07 AM
I noticed the HUDs degradation with a set of polarized shades. When there is glare, there's nothing better.

But thre are some wierd things that happen. When flying my airplane, the polarizer does makes wierd reflections on my instruments - most notably any LCD displays, like my GPS. so I'm not a bif fan either.

And not to be one-upped by Dadonator, I had to buy a pair of $350 perscription non-polarized sunglasses. Yellow mirrored. Aviator is never one to shy from a fashion risk! :eek My bride calls 'em my Buck Rogers sunglasses. They work great with the HUD.

Terry_Fiskin
09-28-2004, 11:15 AM
The C6 does that, to bad the XLR didn't do it first...

Quixotic
09-28-2004, 02:55 PM
It's about time for an update to the NAV system. Maybe they will include it. The day I got my XLR, late September 2003 (NM Ed.), I drove to the Hyatt Hunbtington Beach which opened that January. Neither the address nor the hotel were in the Nav system.

A year later I'm still waiting for an update to the database.

Anyone have news of an update?

alk3997
09-28-2004, 04:25 PM
It is funny - I had the same questions -

1) Who provides the nav updates for the XLR? The Q45 nav updates are handled outside of Infiniti but the OEM, so I wonder if GM handles it the same way?

2) If an error is found in the database who do we tell so it can be corrected on a later database release?

Just a couple of questions I've haven't even figured out who to ask (yet).

Andy

Mr XLR
09-28-2004, 05:04 PM
I went back to vin 600548 and it had version 3.0 as a disc with a g/m part nimber of 25767790. A 2005 I just received has the exact same information on the disc. I will try to get some update information for everyone and the appox. cost of what your Cadillac dealer will charge for ordering it.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank You
Allen

Quixotic
09-28-2004, 06:28 PM
I sure hope the charge is minimal, after all, the warranty theoretically should cover it (in our dreams).

Mr XLR
09-28-2004, 07:01 PM
Like any other Cadillac, to get a updated disc (not downloadable software) it must be purchased from the parts department. Dating back to 2000 when the DHS,DTS & the Seville models had the nav system available, owners have had the option to purchase the updated discs. Depending on the dealer, the cost could range from 300.00 to 400.00. That number could vary based on the year,make & model.

The Nav system is a Denso system in the XLR.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank you
Allen

migsgig
09-28-2004, 09:35 PM
Hey Allen,
Maybe we'll see those NAV discs on your website SOMETIME SOON for a substantial discount to current xlr forum members!!
optimistic migsgig
:thumbs

Mr XLR
09-28-2004, 09:57 PM
Hey, That is not a bad idea??? I must give that some thought!

You wouldnt believe it, but the Nav disc actually has a retail price of just under $ 600.00 so $ 300.00 to $ 400.00 sounds like a pretty huge discount to me.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank You
Allen

alk3997
09-29-2004, 10:14 AM
Allen, thank you! I'll start saving my pennies for the next update...

I guess the only other question is who to send nav database anomaly reports to? We have a road nearby that the systems thinks are two roads and must think there is a barrier between the roads. So, it tries to go about 10 miles out of its way to make the 1/2 mile trip.

Andy

Eyedoc
09-30-2004, 02:37 PM
Yea, my 2000 Navigator had a Nav system that had a website. You could submit "changes" to their database online.

The Cadillac system does not have something like this? I haven't looked yet.

It seems that the further you get form a metropolitan area, the less likely the roads will be correct.

Also, seems to take a few years to get new construction into any of these systems.

Mr XLR
10-01-2004, 12:51 PM
For those that want to get an updated disc, the 4.0 version started going into XLR production the end of August. Which means if a car that has a TPW (Target Production Week) any time in September they should be receiving the new version.

I am waiting on conformation of the part # for the new disc, when i receive it I will let everyone know.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank You
Allen

Mr XLR
10-04-2004, 12:53 PM
For those that were wondering the new 4.0 disc for the Nav system is now being installed in XLR's at the plant. I just received 2 vehicles today & both had the correct version.

For those that want to go to their XLR dealer the pricing should not be over $298.00 + local taxes. If anyone wants to order the new disc feel free to contact me and I can order it for you. The 20% discount for XLR merchandise would not apply to this item.

www.Cadillac-XLR.com (http://www.Cadillac-XLR.com)

Thank you
Allen

1_XLR
10-11-2004, 05:00 PM
And not to be one-upped by Dadonator, I had to buy a pair of $350 perscription non-polarized sunglasses. Yellow mirrored. Aviator is never one to shy from a fashion risk! :eek My bride calls 'em my Buck Rogers sunglasses. They work great with the HUD.

And not to be one-upped by Aviator,
I HAD to buy a pair of $450.00 Bvlgari Sunglasses
non-perscription & non-polarized
They work great with HUD as well!
Fashion risk :cool did I mention Bvlgari? :rolleyes
They were a must have :thumbs

wb6bbz
10-25-2010, 12:48 PM
I really like the performance of the ACC just the way it is.
As for being able to see it while using sunglasses, I wear prescription, polarized bi-focals and have not had any problems seeing the HUD display.

This last summer, I found a REAL ADVANTAGE in having the ACC.
While on a road trip with my oldest daughter from my home in Lawndale, CA., to Wisconsin Dells, WI. we hit some of the heavist rain storms I think I've ever gone through while driving. It hit us like a Flash Flood and I was traveling at 75 mph and could no see more than one car length ahead but the ACC showed a vehicle several car lengths ahead of us and slowed us down to it's speed. My daughter ask me how did I know that vehicle was there as she could not see it and I explained how the ACC worked as I adjusted the distance to the maximum and just sat back and watched the road to keep us in the lane we were in while the ACC maintained a SAFE distance from the vehicles in front of us.

Jack

monepit
10-25-2010, 08:13 PM
Thats a great point. I'm always scared driving in hard rain when you cant see far in front of you, It's good to know the car can. This is also the only car I use the cruise in town. I set it at 5 above posted speed everywhere I go. It for some reason the car in front slams on his breaks when I am daydreaming, the car see's it and hits the breaks. Gotta love it.

xlrlist01
10-27-2010, 02:54 PM
Thats a great point. I'm always scared driving in hard rain when you cant see far in front of you, It's good to know the car can. This is also the only car I use the cruise in town. I set it at 5 above posted speed everywhere I go. It for some reason the car in front slams on his breaks when I am daydreaming, the car see's it and hits the breaks. Gotta love it.

I have an idea the owner's manual advises switching the ACC off in bad weather conditions. I suspect that in the event of an accident, blaming the ACC radar might not count for much! Having it as a back up to the mark one eyeball is useful though, it has certainly spotted near stationary traffic a moment or so before I would have done.

Jerry
09-15-2011, 07:40 PM
I like the adaptive cruise control. I bought a new XLR in 2006 out east and drove it back to Illinois. At first I did not like it (the adaptive cruise control), but I soon got used to it. I traded the 2006 for a new 2009 and I love the adaptive cruise control. I agree, after it slows it zooms back to speed with haste!

dlgouker
10-03-2011, 07:45 PM
If you use your steering wheel controls you will see the radio features!

dlgouker
10-03-2011, 07:50 PM
Am I missing something? I don't remember seeing this stuff.

If you use your steering wheel controls you will see the radio features!