: Changes for 07 XLR-V
standby 08-21-2006, 04:56 PM According to the Cadillac.com site. listing the 2007 XLR-V, Adaptive cruise control is back, also leather rapped wheel with wood, and the new price is now is $98,400.
I'm a little bit suspicious of the add on's, so don't shoot the messenger.
Bob
XLRcited 08-21-2006, 05:58 PM Bob,
I wonder how they wrapped the leather wheel with wood? Sorry - couldn't resist.
Seriously, if they could include the adaptive speed control this model year, I wonder why they couldn't last model year.
Bill
standby 08-21-2006, 08:46 PM Good one Bill,
I described it the way it was described at cadillac.com. I didn't want people to get the impression that the whole wheel was all wood. But that's still a good one, and IF, they indeed are putting wood back on the V, it's probably because they figured out a way to install the radar unit so the grill would not interfere with the radar.
Jetboyphx 08-21-2006, 09:04 PM The GM Buypower site says regular cruise but also mentions a wood accent steering wheel.
standby 08-21-2006, 10:37 PM Kent, do you really think that GM's left hand knows what it's right hand is doing? http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/10/10_1_123.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZS)
Bob
The GM Buypower site says regular cruise but also mentions a wood accent steering wheel.
http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb094&pp=ZS (http://smiley.smileycentral.com/download/index.jhtml?partner=ZSzeb094_ZS&utm_id=7922)
Eyedoc 08-22-2006, 06:46 AM I think the ACC coming back on 2007 V might be the same as the XM antenna migration. They didn't know how much people would want some thing (or didn't like something), so they put some engineers to work and got it done.
1_XLR 08-22-2006, 09:00 AM I think the ACC coming back on 2007 V might be the same as the XM antenna migration. They didn't know how much people would want some thing (or didn't like something), so they put some engineers to work and got it done.
:iagree of all the whistles and bells, this is the best one going in the XLR, and was really hard for me to forfit in trading UP to the V. I never bought into the "because it needs more air flow" excuse and if they compromised it solely for the lower grill, it was a terrible trade off. There's plenty of room on that front end to find a spot for a receiver.
Mr XLR 08-22-2006, 09:23 AM Please be advised,
There are three mistakes on Cadillac.com regarding the XLR-V. Two of the mistakes were taken from the XLR information. Below is the correct info:
1- No Adaptive cruise on the 2007 XLR-V
2- No wood trim on the steering wheel for the 2007 XLR-V
3- Price of the XLR-V is $100,000.00 inclusive of the gas guzzler tax and destination.
www.cadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.cadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
motorboat 08-22-2006, 01:56 PM Well I guess I am safe for one more year. :crazy
I made an earlier post saying I would consider trading in my 2004 with 11K miles in for a "V" if they would put the ACC back in the car.
Thanks Allen you just saved me a lot of money.:D :D
motorboat.vz
XLRcited 08-22-2006, 02:30 PM The person who entered this information into the Cadillac.com website must have been the same one who wrote the Wikipedia article on the DVD display offering Internet access.
1_XLR 08-22-2006, 03:09 PM Well I guess I am safe for one more year. :crazy
I made an earlier post saying I would consider trading in my 2004 with 11K miles in for a "V" if they would put the ACC back in the car.
Thanks Allen you just saved me a lot of money.:D :D
motorboat.vz
I haven't missed the ACC all thet much with all the added bonus I get from the V.
11k miles in 3 years....you won't miss it much either!!
Take the plunge:D
standby 08-22-2006, 05:45 PM Allen,
Yes, I have egg on my face because GM can't even get their website correct. If you folks will go in to their site you will read what I read. I don't just go around making stuff up.
It clearly states that the XLR-V is $98,300 and doesn't state that there are any extras to add to the vehicle to get it to $100,000.
Allen, If you make a statement, be prepared to qualify it and tell us why they have posted erroneous information.
Thank You
Bob
Please be advised,
There are three mistakes on Cadillac.com regarding the XLR-V. Two of the mistakes were taken from the XLR information. Below is the correct info:
1- No Adaptive cruise on the 2007 XLR-V
2- No wood trim on the steering wheel for the 2007 XLR-V
3- Price of the XLR-V is $100,000.00 inclusive of the gas guzzler tax and destination.
www.cadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.cadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
Mr XLR 08-22-2006, 05:52 PM Yes, There are mistakes as I pointed out,, how they arrived there I have no clue, As I stated, I can surmise 2 orf the three issues were taken directly from the regular XLRs info.
But be assured, the XLR team knows about the mistakes and it will be corrected.
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.CadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
standby 08-22-2006, 06:05 PM Thanks for the sponge to get some of the egg off my face.
Again, thanks
Sponge Bob
Yes, There are mistakes as I pointed out,, how they arrived there I have no clue, As I stated, I can surmise 2 orf the three issues were taken directly from the regular XLRs info.
But be assured, the XLR team knows about the mistakes and it will be corrected.
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.CadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
1_XLR 08-23-2006, 08:12 AM technically 98,400. is the price of the car....gas guzzler tax and destination charges are extras just like sales tax and license fees, you wouldn't expect them to include that in their advertising.
standby 08-23-2006, 06:36 PM http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_19_7.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZS) Their price on the web site last year was $100,000, so now they try to make it look cheaper by removing the gas guzzler tax and destination fee? OK, I guess we aren't supposed to catch on to that. techincallyhttp://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_8_14.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZS)
technically 98,400. is the price of the car....gas guzzler tax and destination charges are extras just like sales tax and license fees, you wouldn't expect them to include that in their advertising.
http://www.smileycentral.com/sig.jsp?pc=ZSzeb094&pp=ZS (http://smiley.smileycentral.com/download/index.jhtml?partner=ZSzeb094_ZS&utm_id=7922)
Mr XLR 08-23-2006, 07:28 PM Regarding the MSRP, it is a mistake, because they do say it includes the Gas Guzzler TAx. Cadillac was not trying to misslead anyone, it's just the internet company that runs the site for Cadillac posted the price without the tax, but said it was included. The bottom line is the price is exactly the same as last years $100,000.00
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.CadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
1_XLR 08-24-2006, 08:16 AM thanks Allen,
glad to see they're holding the line on the MSRP.......
hopefully the dealers will try to do the same
standby 08-24-2006, 03:50 PM Cooler heads prevail........thanks for straightening this out. I sometimes wish you were on the west coast, so we could deal with a dealer that knew what he was talking about. You are the man.
Mr XLR 08-24-2006, 05:10 PM Thank you Bob,
It is funny though, to date I have delivered 8 XLRs to California. I have said to the powers to be at Cadillac, that the person that spends 75,000+ on a vehicle cares less where he buys it and if the dealer is close to where they live, and cares more about dealing with someone that is knowledgeable & professional.
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.CadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
standby 08-24-2006, 07:35 PM The only problem is getting service out here. I have to have one of the worst dealers I have ever had............and I will not be taking that back or eating my words. They lost me as a good customer after buying $176,000 dollars worth of vehicles and leasing a CTS for my daughter and they treat me like I just bought a used car. Today they refused to hook me up with a rep to extract the information from my black box after having my stabilitrac shut down and slamming my V into a curb backwards. All underneath stuff and two custom rims and 2 run flats.
Thank you Bob,
It is funny though, to date I have delivered 8 XLRs to California. I have said to the powers to be at Cadillac, that the person that spends 75,000+ on a vehicle cares less where he buys it and if the dealer is close to where they live, and cares more about dealing with someone that is knowledgeable & professional.
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.CadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
Jetboyphx 08-24-2006, 09:14 PM The only problem is getting service out here. I have to have one of the worst dealers I have ever had............and I will not be taking that back or eating my words. They lost me as a good customer after buying $176,000 dollars worth of vehicles and leasing a CTS for my daughter and they treat me like I just bought a used car. Today they refused to hook me up with a rep to extract the information from my black box after having my stabilitrac shut down and slamming my V into a curb backwards. All underneath stuff and two custom rims and 2 run flats.
Ouch :banghead
alibond 08-26-2006, 02:37 PM I'm in Laguna... which two dealers are you referring to?
The only problem is getting service out here. I have to have one of the worst dealers I have ever had............and I will not be taking that back or eating my words. They lost me as a good customer after buying $176,000 dollars worth of vehicles and leasing a CTS for my daughter and they treat me like I just bought a used car. Today they refused to hook me up with a rep to extract the information from my black box after having my stabilitrac shut down and slamming my V into a curb backwards. All underneath stuff and two custom rims and 2 run flats.
standby 08-26-2006, 02:43 PM Go to Tustin, XLR_1 gives it great marks, I suggest you don't want to go to Allen because they never have loaners and will send you to Enterprise and you will have to pay the bill. Then two in one half months later you'll get your money from Allen.
mswaim 08-26-2006, 10:40 PM Thank you Bob,
It is funny though, to date I have delivered 8 XLRs to California. I have said to the powers to be at Cadillac, that the person that spends 75,000+ on a vehicle cares less where he buys it and if the dealer is close to where they live, and cares more about dealing with someone that is knowledgeable & professional.
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.CadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank you
Allen
As much as I'd like to believe that Allen, I don't really think that is true. What we really want (whether we spend $30,000 or $100,000) is value and fewer trips to the dealer. My XLR spent more time at the dealer than all four of my Ford SVT products, either of our two Jags or our Dodge Viper. In fact, my 2005 C6 now has 36,350 miles and had not been back to the dealer for any mechanical issues, other than three oil changes. Heck, Doris's Hummer has only been back to the dealer once after she discovered the horn did not work.
My salesperson was very professional and was quite knowlegable, however all of that is useless when the product fails to meet minimal standards.
motorboat 08-27-2006, 06:46 AM As much as I'd like to believe that Allen, I don't really think that is true. What we really want (whether we spend $30,000 or $100,000) is value and fewer trips to the dealer. My XLR spent more time at the dealer than all four of my Ford SVT products, either of our two Jags or our Dodge Viper. In fact, my 2005 C6 now has 36,350 miles and had not been back to the dealer for any mechanical issues, other than three oil changes. Heck, Doris's Hummer has only been back to the dealer once after she discovered the horn did not work.
My salesperson was very professional and was quite knowledgeable, however all of that is useless when the product fails to meet minimal standards.
I maybe wrong here and it is hard to follow some of these posts because we sometimes talk about 2,3,or 4 thing under one heading but I think Allen was talking about the Price.
MSRP could be held maybe if the dealer was more professional and more knowledgeable about the car he/she was selling. If he/she is then people would buy from him/her no matter if he/she was on the East coast or West coast.
Mswaim I think you are right also in what you said but from the stand point of Service.
My XLR has been in for more service then any car or truck I have ever owned. :confused
It is in the shop now for the leaking weather strip over the doors, the oil leak and latest recall. I hope to have it back this week.
All the repairs have just been little things or recalls but I still have to take it in were my Fords have been problem free with three or four time the mileage.
But for some reason I still LOVE this car.:party
motorboat:flag
mswaim 08-27-2006, 08:32 AM I guess I got off track somewhere, but I stand by my statement and will add this. You can have a salesperson who is quite professional and knows more about the car than the designer, but the proof is still in the product and its after-sales support.
Even if Bob had bought his car from Allen and either took a courtesy delivery or Allen drove it to his door, he is still faced with service issues after-the-fact just as he is now.
Don't get me wrong, we enjoyed the XLR - but its just a car and as such has to be compared to other cars we have owned. When you compare it against all the others, its hard to call it a great car or say we loved it since it did not perform as expected.
The saving grace was the buyback was painless and left us whole. What the heck, we are both still driving GM products, so its not like we are boycotting the company due to our experience.
So now, let's go totally off topic: Doris and I are shopping Trawlers, how about it Motorboat, got any advice?
standby 08-27-2006, 10:36 AM My dealer told me they cannot extract the information off the black box, so I asked them to contact the GM rep for the area and they told me to call customer service.
How do you fell about them not hooking me up with a GM rep? I guess they think I'm going to share this info with my insurance company, THAT"S RIGHT! They stated that they would be very interested in the results and would probably try to to collect from GM and not make me at fault.
Bob
motorboat 08-27-2006, 12:42 PM I guess I got off track somewhere, but I stand by my statement and will add this. You can have a salesperson who is quite professional and knows more about the car than the designer, but the proof is still in the product and its after-sales support.
Even if Bob had bought his car from Allen and either took a courtesy delivery or Allen drove it to his door, he is still faced with service issues after-the-fact just as he is now.
Don't get me wrong, we enjoyed the XLR - but its just a car and as such has to be compared to other cars we have owned. When you compare it against all the others, its hard to call it a great car or say we loved it since it did not perform as expected.
The saving grace was the buyback was painless and left us whole. What the heck, we are both still driving GM products, so its not like we are boycotting the company due to our experience.
So now, let's go totally off topic: Doris and I are shopping Trawlers, how about it Motorboat, got any advice?
mswaim,
I now agree with your statement.
Sales is one thing and Service is another.
I know something about this because I have been in the Service Only Marine business for over 21 years.
People buy boats in Houston but refuse to take them back because the Service they get is so bad. First most of the dealers don't want to do service and second most will not train there service people that well.
Now I know the car business is much better then the boat business when it comes to service but it is still not that much better.
In there defense this is a NEW car for them with so many bells and whistles there is going to be a very big learning curve for any person/company.
Same thing is happening with Marine industries with the NEW Direct Injection motors and the New 4 Stroke motors.
You just have to find the right dealership or the right service only business for your service work and it may not be at the selling dealer.
mswaim, I am sorry but I just don't know that much about the bigger boats. We do service on boats up to about 28-30 feet. Most of these are I/O's but if you have some questions just PM me and I will help out all I can.
motorboat
Cady_Geek 09-23-2006, 08:15 PM Document ID# 1752360
2007 Cadillac XLR
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RPO Code List
The production/process codes provide the description of the Regular Production Options (RPOs) used on the Corvette. The RPO list is printed on the Service Parts Identification Label. The following is a list of the RPO abbreviations and the description of each:
RPO
Description
AAB
Memory, Driver Convenience Package
AG2
Adjuster Pass St - Power, Multi-Directional
AJ7
Restraint System Seat, Inflatable, Driver and PASS, FRT and Side
AQ9
Seat FRT BKT, Luxury
AU5
Lock Control, Entry Remote Entry, Low Power
AU8
Lock Control, Entry Remote Entry, Specific Frequency
AX4
Restraint Conversion, Seat Belt, Manual, European
BAG
Parts Package Export
BGR
Plant Code Bowling Green, KY, USA
BV7
Bumper Provisions Front and Rear, Canadian Requirements
B4H
Modification, Noise Control, Export
B4P
Modification, Noise Control, Transmission Control Module
B57
Ornamentation - Extra, Deluxe
CE4
Washer Headlamp, High Pressure
CJ2
HVAC System, Air Conditioner FRT, Automatic Temperature Control, Auxiliary Temperature Control
CV3
Country - Mexico
DD0
Mirror, Outside, LH & RH, Remote Control, Electric, Heated, Light Sensitive
DD8
Mirror, Inside, R/V Light Sensitive
DL5
Decal Roadside Service Information
D24
Mirror Outside Left and Right, Remote Control, Electric, Heated Light Sensitive, Power Folding
ECM
Module - Inflatable Restraint, European Compliant
EXP
Export
FAA
Ornamentation Finish - Mukonto
FAB
Ornamentation Finish - LT Eucalyptus
FAC
Ornamentation Finish - DK Eucalyptus
FAF
Ornamentation Finish - Natural Olive Ash Burl
FE2
Suspension System Ride, Handling
FE9
Certification Emission, Federal
F51
Chassis - Continuously Variable Real Time Damping Magneto Rheological, Temp Stabilized
F85
Chassis - Heavy Duty, Link System
F92
Chassis - Continuously Variable Real Time Damping Magneto Rheological, Specific Tuning
GB9
Label Limited Consignment - Delete
GM8
Axle Rear - 2.56 Ratio
GU2
Axle Rear - 2.73 Ratio
JAF
Brake Provisions - Europe
JJA
Pt Dress Subassembly - Installed (Modular Optimization Method Only)
JL9
Brake System, Power, Front and Rear Disc, Antilock, FRT & RR Wheel
J55
Brake System - Heavy Duty
KG4
Generator 150-Amp
KJ5
Protector Shipping, Shock Absorber
K05
Heater, Engine Block
LC3
Engine - Gas, 8 Cyl, 4.4L, MFI, V8, SC, Alum, DOHC, GM
LH2
Engine GA, 8 CYL, 4.6L, SFI, V8, DOHC, HO, ALUM, GM
MAE
Marketing Area - Europe
MX0
Merchandised Transmission, Automatic O/D Provisions
MYC
Transmission - Auto 6 Spd, HMD, 6L80
NA3
Emission System, Japan
NDA
Navigation DISC Data - Not Installed
NE1
Certification Emission Geographically Restricted Registration for Vehicles Up To 14,000 LBS GVW (Use 2003 MDL YR)
NP5
Steering Wheel - Leather Wrapped
NP7
Steering Column, EEC Approved
NF9
Emission System General, OBD MIL Suppression
NT4
Emission System - EEC 05
NT7
Emission System - Federal, Tier 2
NU1
Emission System - California, Lev 2
N30
Steering Wheel Deluxe
N37
Steering Column Tilt, Telescoping
N87
Wheel - 18 X 8, Aluminum
PD5
Wheel 18 X 8, Aluminum, Chrome
PLA
Appearance Package - Platinum Edition
QF8
Wheel 18 X 8, Aluminum, Polished
QMS
Tire All P235/5OR18-97W BW AL3 (EMT)
QT8
Wheel 18 X 8, Aluminum, Painted
Q24
Tire All P235/45R19 FRT & P255/40R19 RR
SSG
Graphic - Switch Function Symbol
TBD
Special Edition X30
T62
Lamp System Daytime Running - Delete
T79
Fog Lamp, RR
T84
Head Lamps RH Rule of the Road, E Mark
T85
Headlamps, LH Rule of the Road, E Mark
T89
Lamps, Tail and Stop, Export
T90
Lamps, Signaling & Marker, Export
T9E
Lamp FOG, ECE Requirements
UA2
Theft Deterrent System Export Specific
UD4
Alarm, Vehicle Speed, 120 km/h
UE1
Communication System Vehicle, GPS 1
UG1
Opener Garage Door, Universal
UH3
Indicator Low Tire Pressure , VAR 2
UJ6
Indicator Low Tire Pressure
UJ9
Indicator Low Tire Pressure , VAR 1
UK1
Frequencies, Japanese
UK3
Control - Steering Wheel, Accessory
US3
Antenna Diversity
UV6
Display Head Up
U19
Speedometer - Instrument KILO and MILES Odometer
U2K
Digital Audio System S-Band
U2R
Infotainment System 001
U2S
Infotainment System 002
U2U
Infotainment System 004
U52
Instrument Cluster, Electronic
U63
Speaker System 9, Premium
VA5
Language Label - English
VBX
Language Label - Arabic
VB1
Language Label - Japan
VC4
Label Price/Fuel Economy, Puerto Rico & Virgin Islands
VC5
Label Shipping, Except US, US Possessions, or Japan
VDD
Vehicle Information - DVD, Customer Orientation
VD4
Provision Options - Poor Fuel Quality Characteristics
VH5
Plate, Vehicle Identification
VJ4
Label, Export - Child Seat Location
VK3
License Plate Front - FRT Mounting Package
VL4
License Plate Front - FRT Mounting Package, EEC
VL6
License Plate Front - FRT Mounting Package, Japanese
VZ3
Label - Mercury Disposal Notification
V2F
Cooling System - Power Steering FINN
V73
Vehicle Statement - USA/Canada
V76
Hook Tow
V78
Vehicle Statement - Delete
V87
Vehicle Statement - Gulf States Organization
W11
Navigation Disc Data - Nav Data 1
W12
Navigation Disc Data - Nav Data 2
YF5
Certification Emission, California
Z49
Export Canadian Modifications, Mandatory Base Equipment
Z5X
Mirror Provisions, Arabic Language
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Document ID# 1752360
2007 Cadillac XLR
standby 09-23-2006, 09:56 PM And this is for what purpose?
Cady_Geek 09-24-2006, 03:34 PM the purpose is this.
some of those options were not available on 04-06 models.
but let's say you see something that you don't have.but you want it, so now you know it's available, and possibly can be added to your exsisting vehicle.
plus when you or somebody else wants to buy a new XLR. it will help them to know what's available, because sales people as everyone know are not always honest and up front
Jetboyphx 09-24-2006, 10:31 PM Looks like they are getting ready for the exports to Japan, Europe and the Arab states.
harrysxlr 09-25-2006, 10:56 AM Looks like they are getting ready for the exports to Japan, Europe and the Arab states.
Hi Kent,
I talked to my dealer and he made a call to the people of GM-Europe so I know the XLR V and STS V will not arrive before spring 07 over here, possible even later.
Do you think you`ll show up in Bowling Green next Aug. in your steel-blue XLR or maybe an XLR V? What`s your plans?
Hans
standby 09-25-2006, 06:59 PM Knowing Kent, he might show up in a blue bunny costume
Jetboyphx 09-25-2006, 09:02 PM Knowing Kent, he might show up in a blue bunny costume
Don't spoil the surprise :smash
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