We have had our '05 in several times over the past few months with top/trunk problems. The pattern seemed pretty reliable; back the car out of the garage to wash it, when putting it back in the garage afterward, we get a "Top Not Secure" message. The top will fail half-way through if you try to operate it in that condition. By the next day, it would usually be fine.

The latest event left the trunk entirely inoperable.

After 3 or 4 trips in, they tell me they found a tiny drain that had been blocked, and the trunk mechanism was getting wet... standing in water.

Just posting an experience that you may want to pass along if you are having similar problems.

We have had our '05 in several times over the past few months with top/trunk problems. The pattern seemed pretty reliable; back the car out of the garage to wash it, when putting it back in the garage afterward, we get a "Top Not Secure" message. The top will fail half-way through if you try to operate it in that condition. By the next day, it would usually be fine.

The latest event left the trunk entirely inoperable.

After 3 or 4 trips in, they tell me they found a tiny drain that had been blocked, and the trunk mechanism was getting wet... standing in water.

Just posting an experience that you may want to pass along if you are having similar problems.
Hi Caly,
I`ve had the TOP NOT SECURE once, after lowering my top on a short trip this message came on. When I restarted my car the message was gone. Till today, I never had any problems with the operating of my top.

Happy New Year too you.

Harry Hans

My 2005 frequently gets the "Top Not Secure" message even though I have not had the top down in several weeks. It is in the dealership today to fix this (and a broken $1800 windshield)
I will report back on the dealers findings.:banghead

My 2005 frequently gets the "Top Not Secure" message even though I have not had the top down in several weeks. It is in the dealership today to fix this (and a broken $1800 windshield)
I will report back on the dealers findings.:banghead

Same here on the message plus not having used the top recently. In my case it had more to do with the trunk than the top... trunk movement being necessary to operate the top. Mention the drain problem and water around the trunk pump/mech.

Maybe thats what I will try next. Dealer says that they could not get message to come on again so, they did nothing. Came on again for me on the way home from dealer. Makes me wonder how hard they tried.
They did replace the windshield for a mere $2469..........Ouch :flag

Jack,
Sorry to hear about the $1800 windshield. That's a terrible Christmas present.
Happy New Year
Bob
My 2005 frequently gets the "Top Not Secure" message even though I have not had the top down in several weeks. It is in the dealership today to fix this (and a broken $1800 windshield)
I will report back on the dealers findings.:banghead

Jack,
Ouch is right, $2469? That's a terrible anytime present
Have a better year
bob
Maybe thats what I will try next. Dealer says that they could not get message to come on again so, they did nothing. Came on again for me on the way home from dealer. Makes me wonder how hard they tried.
They did replace the windshield for a mere $2469..........Ouch :flag

I had this, too, and my dealer told me they had a note on it from GM. He bent the contact in the windshield header so it made solid contact with the roof and the problem's gone. When you've got Top not Secure in the DIC I think it might effect how the trunk and top systems function/don't function.

We have had our '05 in several times over the past few months with top/trunk problems. The pattern seemed pretty reliable; back the car out of the garage to wash it, when putting it back in the garage afterward, we get a "Top Not Secure" message. The top will fail half-way through if you try to operate it in that condition. By the next day, it would usually be fine.

The latest event left the trunk entirely inoperable.

After 3 or 4 trips in, they tell me they found a tiny drain that had been blocked, and the trunk mechanism was getting wet... standing in water.

Just posting an experience that you may want to pass along if you are having similar problems.
yes i have had my xlr in for about 14 repairs and had cadillac enginier out to inspect and repaired after picking up car after 1 week in shop on my way home roof froze and sent in for 4 more repairs after being garrented 100% repaired I have hired an attorney since then I have found out this is an on going problem and xlrs have been bought back if you like your xlr have them replace I was offerd a replacement but iI chose no mor head aches.

Now although I did bump my head this morning, I can't imagine that the above post would be any harder to read if I hadn't.
:banghead

I think we are either are dealing with someone from Europe or he hasn't heard about the Internet spell check (iespell). He is of course excused if from Europe, but must find that program that puts spell check in the TOOLS folder while on the Internet.
Bob.....................ME TOO :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :iagree


Now although I did bump my head this morning, I can't imagine that the above post would be any harder to read if I hadn't.
:banghead

I think we are either are dealing with someone from Europe or he hasn't heard about the Internet spell check (iespell). He is of course excused if from Europe, but must find that program that puts spell check in the TOOLS folder while on the Internet.
Bob.....................ME TOO :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :iagree
He friends, I.m from Europe and I´ll bet my posts are even harder to read.:glol :glol :glol :glol :glol :glol
but Bob and me allways worked it out, isn`t it so?:yesnod :yesnod

Hans

Hans,
Your posts are always classy and I can also excuse people who haven't mastered our tough language.:cheers
Bob
ps sending you a personal e-mail


He friends, I.m from Europe and I´ll bet my posts are even harder to read.:glol :glol :glol :glol :glol :glol
but Bob and me allways worked it out, isn`t it so?:yesnod :yesnod

Hans

Hans,
Your posts are always classy and I can also excuse people who haven't mastered our tough language.:cheers
Bob
ps sending you a personal e-mail
That`s the words of a friend!!!!!:thumbs :flag

Backed the XLR out of the garage on Sunday, washed and dried it and when I started it up to return to the garage....

TOP NOT SECURE

crap.:rant

Caly,
I guess I've had every message that DIC can produce, but, Knock on wood, I've never had trouble with the top or any message saying, "top not secure". I put my top up and down as much as I switch channels on the TV, the only message concerning the top was the divider not secure. so I guess I'm lucky.
Bob

Backed the XLR out of the garage on Sunday, washed and dried it and when I started it up to return to the garage....

TOP NOT SECURE

crap.:rant

OK. For anyone who is interested (GM lurkers maybe?)...

I've been puzzled as to why I can so reliably get the error message when I wash the car... versus just hitting a rain-storm or something.

I washed the car last night and did notice something that might be a clue. One of the things I do first is the wheels... brush the tires and wheels with soapy water and RINSE THE WHEEL WELLS OUT WELL.

One of those little details that makes a car look nice even if you don't consciensly notice it... clean wheel wells look nice.

I suspect there is a path from one of the rear wheel wells to some unprotected wireing.

I'm not in a mood to pull the wheel and start looking right now, but somebody might take an interest and see if something should be sealed up a little better there.

We have had our '05 in several times over the past few months with top/trunk problems. The pattern seemed pretty reliable; back the car out of the garage to wash it, when putting it back in the garage afterward, we get a "Top Not Secure" message. The top will fail half-way through if you try to operate it in that condition. By the next day, it would usually be fine.

The latest event left the trunk entirely inoperable.

After 3 or 4 trips in, they tell me they found a tiny drain that had been blocked, and the trunk mechanism was getting wet... standing in water.

Just posting an experience that you may want to pass along if you are having similar problems.

hmmmm, interesting. We've had leaks in the roof when going thru the pressure washer, and now the trunk lid won't close after the roof stows into the trunk. Trunk lid works fine anyother time.. Where is that drain you say they unblocked?

3 of us have had the trunk lid raise WITHOUT our intervention while backing out of our garages. We did NOT activate the fob or dash button and the trunks were secure when we entered our cars. No audible signal or other indication of the trunk lid raising were noticed by any of us. In each case, independently the same dealer stated "this is the first we ever heard of this problem". We believe there is a malfunction with the fob or with the trunk lid mechanism. In each case this happened while in reverse, backing out of a garage resulting in nearly $6000 damage to the lid and its mechanism. We have no interest in hearing that it must have been something we did to cause this problem. You folks have had trunk lid problems that may have a relationship to our experience though different. Kindly respond if you know of and can possibly document a similar problem. Thanks.

Blackbird,
This sounds like a similiar problem with the windows. They get out of sink and you have to reprogram it. Most of the items on this car are an easy fix for the dealer and the XLR mechanic because they know how to correct it.
My window would go all the way up and then reverse to the bottom and then settle at about 1/4 of the way up. FiX.............open the door, power on, hold the button till it gets to the top and count to 5, reverse it to the bottom and count to 5 and it's fixed. I know this isn't the same but it's along this idea.
Bob
Viva La Rendezvous

hmmmm, interesting. We've had leaks in the roof when going thru the pressure washer, and now the trunk lid won't close after the roof stows into the trunk. Trunk lid works fine anyother time.. Where is that drain you say they unblocked?
Never saw it... that's the dealer's story. I never seem to have a problem with rain, only when washing the car... no high pressure, pretty gentle actually. I think the only thing different is that I like to rinse out the wheel wells, so there must be a way for water to get in there.:confused

I have an '04, and several times (perhaps 4) I have walked out to my driveway or store after driving the car to find my trunklid wide open with no known action on my part (fortunately all in good weather). I can not fully rule out a FOB issue, but I am suspect and will continue to more closely monitor....

update and further comment

my trunklid problem (not shutting after roof stows) was an easy fix for the dealer - he stated it needed to "re-learn" it's operation. Sounds like something similar to what has been mentioned here recently about resyncing the door window.

I told him I'd like to know the 'fix' so I can do it myself - no need to have the hassle of seeing the dealer, etc. And when the warranty is out there's no sense paying for this simple thing.

The door seals were replaced due to leaking while in the car wash. Did no good. I will simply wash by hand or go to non-high pressure wash in the future. Issue closed.

Now, the other observation. In the last week I've come out twice to an open trunk lid. Both times while in convertible mode. Peculiar. I assumed I had touched the fob button while it was in my pocket. Now I will pay more attention, as I see others are experiencing the same.

dave

I've had the same problem of accidently activating the fob in my pocket. Incidentally, Heritage Cadillac is replacing both of my fobs, even tho they are marked GM/S

Same problem here with trunk lid mysteriously opening by itself. I can see my car from my 2nd floor office window, which is about 30-40 feet. Several times I had to go down to close the trunk lid which was open. I assumed that I must have leaned on the fob in my pocket. I'll have to pay more attention and take the fob out of my pocket in the office and see if it happens again.

Bob: Thanks for the tip on resetting the windows. I took mine back to the dealer for this problem and they supposedly fixed it. Happened several times since then and the 5 second up and down fix seems to work - at least until the next time.

Ira