Hi friends, look what I´ve found on Cadillacforums

Crozier was at the Drag Strip and they raced a C6 Z06 against a XLR V and the Z06 come down with 11.8 vs 12.0 for the XLR V.

That surprised me so much I almost couldn`t believe. Was it a tuned XLR, because as far as I know the XLR Vs will sell the first cars in Jan 06.

If it was a regular XLR V this car is fantastic. Isn`t it????????

Hans

I'd be very suspicious of that information too, Harry.

I'll be surprised if the "V" sees 12 second 1/4 mile times in stock form, and if it does it will be closer to 12.9, not 12 flat.

3700 lbs with 440 horses vs 3100 lbs with 500 horses (and a heck of a lot more torque) and they claim a .2 second split?:bs :bs :bs

I'd be very suspicious of that information too, Harry.

I'll be surprised if the "V" sees 12 second 1/4 mile times in stock form, and if it does it will be closer to 12.9, not 12 flat.

3700 lbs with 440 horses vs 3100 lbs with 500 horses (and a heck of a lot more torque) and they claim a .2 second split?:bs :bs :bs

Hi mswaim,
I´ve just checked out the quarter mile times from stock STS and XLR, it`s
STS 14.3 @ 97.5
XLR 14.0 @ 102.5

so if the STS V got a time of 13.2, the XLR V should come out with 12.8 or so!

Crozier on Cadillacforums didn`t answered jet, hope soon.

Harry Hans

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I will have a racer on my hands. I told you it had done 4.1 to 60 and you didn't believe old Bob. 12.0 and 11.8 is a car length in the 1/4 mile. What was the top speed in the 1/4?
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Hi friends, look what I´ve found on Cadillacforums

Crozier was at the Drag Strip and they raced a C6 Z06 against a XLR V and the Z06 come down with 11.8 vs 12.0 for the XLR V.

That surprised me so much I almost couldn`t believe. Was it a tuned XLR, because as far as I know the XLR Vs will sell the first cars in Jan 06.

If it was a regular XLR V this car is fantastic. Isn`t it????????

Hans





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I will have a racer on my hands. I told you it had done 4.1 to 60 and you didn't believe old Bob. 12.0 and 11.8 is a car length in the 1/4 mile. What was the top speed in the 1/4?
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Hi Bob, I had or still has a lot of work, that`s why you didn`t see me here often.

Yes, I wish these numbers would be right, that would be great!!!!!!!
The top speed was 12 @ 120 that means 12 sec to almost 200 kph (hey I love this).
If these numbers are right Bob, it takes us on a open road about 18 sec to see if your new V is governed or not:glol

Hans

The reason we find it hard to believe "old Bob" is the fact there is no proof the XLR-V will run 0-60 in 4.1 seconds. Some moron posting a thread to the internet claiming to have watched a race between a Z06 and an XLR-V is not much proof since he has no film, no time slip or other evidence to back up his claim.

Of course, "Old Bob" also tried to convince us that the ACC would bring his car to a complete stop without striking a fixed object in its path. :bs :glol :glol

The reason we find it hard to believe "old Bob" is the fact there is no proof the XLR-V will run 0-60 in 4.1 seconds. Some moron posting a thread to the internet claiming to have watched a race between a Z06 and an XLR-V is not much proof since he has no film, no time slip or other evidence to back up his claim.

Of course, "Old Bob" also tried to convince us that the ACC would bring his car to a complete stop without striking a fixed object in its path. :bs :glol :glol
Hi mswaim,
Bob knows that the ACC disables when the speed is falling below 10 kph (6 mph).
He asked me a long time ago to try this out on my XLR and that was my result.

For the XLR V, I hope there are soon some road tests to see what it is able to do.
For me, I would say it`s about 0.3 - 0.4 sec faster than the STS V and that would be around 12.8 - we`ll see.
Harry Hans

I would agree with you; it might even be a bit quicker, but no where near 12 flat.

Gee Hans, I remember a post from OLD mswaim that said there was no way the new V would have 440 HP, that adding a supercharger would not give it that much HP, not to mention other information that didn't hold water.
My information on this site has been accurate and consistant, especial with all the info I recieved about the V, long before anyone here even knew what the HP would be. I as well as many other members have been very helpful on this site in getting problems fixed or finding out how to fix them, while OLD Swaim jsut keeps running me in the ground for one indiscretion of 6 miles an hour versus a complete stop. Ba humbug on you OLD mswaim
I think Santa needs to put coal in OLD mswaim's sock at Xmas.
I mean, why is he even on this site, he doesn't own an XLR

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Hi mswaim,
Bob knows that the ACC disables when the speed is falling below 10 kph (6 mph).
He asked me a long time ago to try this out on my XLR and that was my result.

For the XLR V, I hope there are soon some road tests to see what it is able to do.
For me, I would say it`s about 0.3 - 0.4 sec faster than the STS V and that would be around 12.8 - we`ll see.
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Geez Bob, you really should stay on the meds and while your at it take a moment and check your Depends, I think they are leaking again.

You are unique only in the fact you post more dribble and non-factual crap than any other member.

How about the "high level" source that told you the XLR-V would be capable of 0-60 in 3.8 seconds? Oh ya, that really is quality info.

In fact, how about the following piece from one of your posts where you bash the one true source of quality info on this forum: Well Allen,

I have read your sales pitch on your web site and if you think we people in the range of $76,000 to $82,000 are not happy with Gm for not coming to our rescue when things go wrong, Imagine the "elite luxury performance buyers whose discriminating tastes may require an additional level of service", will feel when their V's start faltering and nothing is done by Gm to accommodate these high end buyers.

This from a guy who now wants us to believe he's standing in line to plunk down $100,000 to a dealer he was badmouthing just a few short months ago.

I'm glad I was here to see the result of your dealer reading your posts and forcing you to post an apology for your childish rantings about him.

Yea, there is a lump of coal here, but I don't think it's in my sock....................:glol :glol :glol :glol

How much do you charge to haunt houses. It's time for you to cross over and go into the light, maybe then we can get some rest.
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Geez Bob, you really should stay on the meds and while your at it take a moment and check your Depends, I think they are leaking again.

You are unique only in the fact you post more dribble and non-factual crap than any other member.

How about the "high level" source that told you the XLR-V would be capable of 0-60 in 3.8 seconds? Oh ya, that really is quality info.

In fact, how about the following piece from one of your posts where you bash the one true source of quality info on this forum: Well Allen,

I have read your sales pitch on your web site and if you think we people in the range of $76,000 to $82,000 are not happy with Gm for not coming to our rescue when things go wrong, Imagine the "elite luxury performance buyers whose discriminating tastes may require an additional level of service", will feel when their V's start faltering and nothing is done by Gm to accommodate these high end buyers.

This from a guy who now wants us to believe he's standing in line to plunk down $100,000 to a dealer he was badmouthing just a few short months ago.

I'm glad I was here to see the result of your dealer reading your posts and forcing you to post an apology for your childish rantings about him.

Yea, there is a lump of coal here, but I don't think it's in my sock....................:glol :glol :glol :glol





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Hey, it's all about honesty and integrity - I know the words are foreign to you, however even the oldest dog can learn. Take a lesson from your own playbook, when the ghost of Christmas past comes to call try repenting again. What the heck, it worked the last time.........:glol :glol :glol

Go ahead Bob, put me on the "ignore" list again. :glol :glol :glol

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quote=harrysxlr]Hi Bob, I had or still has a lot of work, that`s why you didn`t see me here often.

Yes, I wish these numbers would be right, that would be great!!!!!!!
The top speed was 12 @ 120 that means 12 sec to almost 200 kph (hey I love this).
If these numbers are right Bob, it takes us on a open road about 18 sec to see if your new V is governed or not:glol

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So Bob - how goes the Lemon law claim? Has your attorney successfully litigated your case for you or are you just going to step up and take a huge loss on the trade, pay MSRP for your XLR-V and watch your dealer as laughs all the way to his bank with your money? :glol :glol :glol

My God, how can you look at yourself in the mirror every morning knowing your dealer forced you to post a letter of apology on the net - and you are still standing in line hat in hand willing to buy another vehicle from them?

How sad.....................Oh, my bad. I forgot I am on your ignore list.

So Bob - how goes the Lemon law claim? Has your attorney successfully litigated your case for you or are you just going to step up and take a huge loss on the trade, pay MSRP for your XLR-V and watch your dealer as laughs all the way to his bank with your money? :glol :glol :glol

My God, how can you look at yourself in the mirror every morning knowing your dealer forced you to post a letter of apology on the net - and you are still standing in line hat in hand willing to buy another vehicle from them?

How sad.....................Oh, my bad. I forgot I am on your ignore list.

Of the few that will step up and buy a V.....Do you really think your buddy will be one of them??:nodno NFW

mswaim, you will be the last one to know what's going on with what kind of a deal I have made, but it will beat the crap out of whatever deal you made. la la la la la la, I'm not listening!
Of the few that will step up and buy a V.....Do you really think your buddy will be one of them??:nodno NFW

mswaim, you will be the last one to know what's going on with what kind of a deal I have made, but it will beat the crap out of whatever deal you made.

Mighty bold talk Bob, considering you don't have anything to back it up. You continue to talk as though you actually own an XLR-V, when in fact you don't have squat, nor do you have any credibility to bank on.

The fact is you have been talking about lemoning your current ride for more than 6 months with no luck, I on the other hand settled my problems in a two week period and walked away the clear winner.

There can be no better deal Bob, face it...........

Please put me back on your ignore list, at least that way you won't continue embarrassing yourself.

The reason we find it hard to believe "old Bob" is the fact there is no proof the XLR-V will run 0-60 in 4.1 seconds. Some moron posting a thread to the internet claiming to have watched a race between a Z06 and an XLR-V is not much proof since he has no film, no time slip or other evidence to back up his claim.

Of course, "Old Bob" also tried to convince us that the ACC would bring his car to a complete stop without striking a fixed object in its path. :bs :glol :glol

Wonder if old Bob has the balls to put his money where his mouth is. How about a race for pink slips on his new XLR-V. If he really thinks it can do the times he claims, let's put it up against my bone stock SLK55, which I'm quite positive is quite a bit quicker.

0-60? 1/4 mile? Road race? Any way you slice it the XLR-V won't keep up.

It's an awesome car, and I wouldn't mind a bit having one, but there's no way it puts down those numbers stock and the magazines certainly confirm it.

If you'll take notice, OLD Dozer, I never said this. Pay attention to where I heard it. Iwas merely reporting what I had heard. and yes your 55 will beat my new V if your look at the numbers in Road & Track............By 1/10 of a second to 60. Big Fn Deal What did you pay for your SLK55?
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Wonder if old Bob has the balls to put his money where his mouth is. How about a race for pink slips on his new XLR-V. If he really thinks it can do the times he claims, let's put it up against my bone stock SLK55, which I'm quite positive is quite a bit quicker.

0-60? 1/4 mile? Road race? Any way you slice it the XLR-V won't keep up.

It's an awesome car, and I wouldn't mind a bit having one, but there's no way it puts down those numbers stock and the magazines certainly confirm it.

I will have a racer on my hands. I told you it had done 4.1 to 60 and you didn't believe old Bob.

ROFL. Now you try to take your words back. Yes, you did say it, go and look at your first post in this thread. You said you had a racer on your hands, I'm ready to race. =) I guess the memory is the first thing to go. ;)

The SLK55 ran about $68k loaded ($2k off MSRP). 0-60 in 4.3, 1/4 mile in 12.7. Those are C&D's numbers, and they got a 4.7 0-60 in the XLR-V, quite a bit more than '.1 second'. $32k less than the XLR, it's quicker, stops faster, weighs 450lbs less, and will have far better resale.

The nav system sucks IMHO, and the 16-spoke wheels aren't my favorite look, but other than that the car is incredible. For service the dealer even comes to my house, drops off a loaner, takes the car in and then drops it back off. (He lives in the same city and just loves driving it really).

The 7-speed tranny is incredible, mad power anytime you want it, sucker will even downshift skipping up to 4 gears when needed. Exhaust sound is wonderful. Brakes are insane, perfect for the track, 6-pot calipers w/13.4" rotors, instead of drilling them they actually took the time to cast in the holes. Engine is handbuilt and tested by a single person. iPod integration is fantastic, can't wait to try the Bluetooth setup. =)

I love the XLR-V and really wanted one, and while I can afford it the extra cost just wasn't justified in my opinion. Plus I just couldn't stand to wait that much longer.

Wonder if old Bob has the balls to put his money where his mouth is. How about a race for pink slips on his new XLR-V. If he really thinks it can do the times he claims, let's put it up against my bone stock SLK55, which I'm quite positive is quite a bit quicker.

0-60? 1/4 mile? Road race? Any way you slice it the XLR-V won't keep up.

It's an awesome car, and I wouldn't mind a bit having one, but there's no way it puts down those numbers stock and the magazines certainly confirm it.


The slk most likely would barely win a quater mile run, it would really depend on track conditions. On a hot sticky day, the XLR would win. However, on a road coarse, the XLR would win very easy. It really is no contest. I might add that I own a AMG S55

ROFL. Now you try to take your words back. Yes, you did say it, go and look at your first post in this thread. You said you had a racer on your hands, I'm ready to race. =) I guess the memory is the first thing to go. ;)

The SLK55 ran about $68k loaded ($2k off MSRP). 0-60 in 4.3, 1/4 mile in 12.7. Those are C&D's numbers, and they got a 4.7 0-60 in the XLR-V, quite a bit more than '.1 second'. $32k less than the XLR, it's quicker, stops faster, weighs 450lbs less, and will have far better resale.

The nav system sucks IMHO, and the 16-spoke wheels aren't my favorite look, but other than that the car is incredible. For service the dealer even comes to my house, drops off a loaner, takes the car in and then drops it back off. (He lives in the same city and just loves driving it really).

The 7-speed tranny is incredible, mad power anytime you want it, sucker will even downshift skipping up to 4 gears when needed. Exhaust sound is wonderful. Brakes are insane, perfect for the track, 6-pot calipers w/13.4" rotors, instead of drilling them they actually took the time to cast in the holes. Engine is handbuilt and tested by a single person. iPod integration is fantastic, can't wait to try the Bluetooth setup. =)

I love the XLR-V and really wanted one, and while I can afford it the extra cost just wasn't justified in my opinion. Plus I just couldn't stand to wait that much longer.

I almost forgot, I think it is very questionable that the SLK would even make a lap at speed. Mine seems to break every time I take it near a track.

Are you brain dead or you just can't read? the quote was, "I would have a racer on my hands if this guy was right with his information." Is it possible you got an F in English. I hope I meet you at a light some day, cause one thing I'm good at is the Christmas tree and you have no idea how hot this V is out of the hole.
Again you didn't read my quote right. I didn't say a second in the quarter mile, I said 1/10 of a second 0 to 60. FYI, that's about a bumper and part of the grill. (:Road & Track")
ROFL. Now you try to take your words back. Yes, you did say it, go and look at your first post in this thread. You said you had a racer on your hands, I'm ready to race. =) I guess the memory is the first thing to go. ;)

The SLK55 ran about $68k loaded ($2k off MSRP). 0-60 in 4.3, 1/4 mile in 12.7. Those are C&D's numbers, and they got a 4.7 0-60 in the XLR-V, quite a bit more than '.1 second'. $32k less than the XLR, it's quicker, stops faster, weighs 450lbs less, and will have far better resale.

The nav system sucks IMHO, and the 16-spoke wheels aren't my favorite look, but other than that the car is incredible. For service the dealer even comes to my house, drops off a loaner, takes the car in and then drops it back off. (He lives in the same city and just loves driving it really).

The 7-speed tranny is incredible, mad power anytime you want it, sucker will even downshift skipping up to 4 gears when needed. Exhaust sound is wonderful. Brakes are insane, perfect for the track, 6-pot calipers w/13.4" rotors, instead of drilling them they actually took the time to cast in the holes. Engine is handbuilt and tested by a single person. iPod integration is fantastic, can't wait to try the Bluetooth setup. =)

I love the XLR-V and really wanted one, and while I can afford it the extra cost just wasn't justified in my opinion. Plus I just couldn't stand to wait that much longer.

Nice reply Rick and it was intelligently put.:cheers

I almost forgot, I think it is very questionable that the SLK would even make a lap at speed. Mine seems to break every time I take it near a track.

Hi Bob, Rick and Dozer

These post`s are interesting but still a little funny to me.

Who really cares about 1/10 or 3/10 faster from 0-60 mph???

My XLR does 0-100 kph (62 mph) in 5.5 and the 02 Vette I´ve had did it in 4.9 and there is no feelable difference! OK, like from 60 to 160 mph my Vette was faster than my XLR but most of you arent able to go with your cars that high speeds because of your speed limit.
I`ve toped out my Vette with 304 kph (189 mph), my XLR 289 kph (179 mph) and till now there was no car beating me.

What I want to say is this:

The sports car # 1 right now is the CORVETTE Z06, for about 65 K which does top speed 200 mph, 0-60 3.6 sec and 1/4 mile in 11.8 @ 124 mph - no one can beat this numbers for this price of the Z06. Cars, with similar numbers will cost about tripple the price of the Vette.

slk or boxster are nice little sport`s cars
xlr or sl are nice luxury sport`s cars
vette z06`s or vipers are more the "real drivers car"

am I wrong????

Hans

Right on Harry, My Z06 doesn't compare to my XLR in comfort. Here in the hills of WV you can enjoy both on the twisting mountain roads. :reddevil :iagree

You're absolutly correctly correct Harry, in real life these numbers don't mean squat, and I could probably beat Bob in my stock Dodge Quad Cab anyway! People that race don't buy either one of these cars, so the numbers are only for bragging rights.

Dozers been around here for a long time trying to decide whether to buy an XLR or not and finally decided to settle for the SLK. He came here to pick on our weakest link to make him feel better about his own buyers remorse.:cry

Right on Harry, My Z06 doesn't compare to my XLR in comfort. Here in the hills of WV you can enjoy both on the twisting mountain roads. :reddevil :iagree
:thumbs right Bud,
the steering ratio in the Vette was better than in the XLR, more direct!
The pair of cars you got is excellent:iagree
Yesterday I´ve got the first test of the new Z06 in a german magazin and it finished with 5 stars (that`s the best you can get). The XLR was tested with 4 stars, still good!!!!
XLR V is available here in Germany in about 1 year - Z 06 right now but they sold out:(

Harry

I agree with Harry, I've owned alot of cars, including an XLR, however I keep going back to the ones I really like - "real drivers cars". I have an order placed for a Z06, but I'll have to be patient to get the color I want. Unitl then I'll enjoy beating on the C6 which is not a slug by any stretch of the imagination.

Enjoy the XLR-V's, sounds like they have met your expectations.:cheers


BTW - Jusat for the heck of it, I posted a picture of the C6 in the same spot where I took the pictures of the XLR.

You're absolutly correctly correct Harry, in real life these numbers don't mean squat, and I could probably beat Bob in my stock Dodge Quad Cab anyway! People that race don't buy either one of these cars, so the numbers are only for bragging rights.

Dozers been around here for a long time trying to decide whether to buy an XLR or not and finally decided to settle for the SLK. He came here to pick on our weakest link to make him feel better about his buyers remorse.:cry
hmmm, 1_XLR what about the speed limiter on your V:lol did you try it out already? If not, it only takes you from 0 about 30 seconds. Let me know:yesnod

Thanks for your post

Harry

I agree with Harry, I've owned alot of cars, including an XLR, however I keep going back to the ones I really like - "real drivers cars". I have an order placed for a Z06, but I'll have to be patient to get the color I want. Unitl then I'll enjoy beating on the C6 which is not a slug by any stretch of the imagination.

Enjoy the XLR-V's, sounds like they have met your expectations.:cheers
Thank you mswaim for:iagree with me.
As I know your C6 is mill.yellow, what color you get your Z 06?

Harry

BTW - Jusat for the heck of it, I posted a picture of the C6 in the same spot where I took the pictures of the XLR.

Not as nice of a shot, looks like you caught it later in the day,
but what better place to spend the afternoon!
Nice ride though....that's the color I would have liked for my V:thumbs

hmmm, 1_XLR what about the speed limiter on your V:lol did you try it out already? If not, it only takes you from 0 about 30 seconds. Let me know:yesnod

Thanks for your post

Harry

Haven't reached the speed limiter yet...but I'm sure it's there waiting for me!

Thanks! I like the color too, I want my Z06 in the same shade, however they are like hens teeth (or XLR-V's). The new photo was taken in the afternoon as you suspected. Not as nice, but the view was great.

BTW - I'm also curious to know if the "V" is speed limited like its counterpart is. Hopefully not, but my money is on you being the first to find out!!

Thank you mswaim for:iagree with me.
As I know your C6 is mill.yellow, what color you get your Z 06?

Harry

Harry, it's Velocity Yellow, and it is sweet up close. It has a tinted clear coat. The process adds a ton of depth to it.

As for the Z06, I want the same color, however to get one equipped the way I want may take a while.

Harry, it's Velocity Yellow, and it is sweet up close. It has a tinted clear coat. The process adds a ton of depth to it.

As for the Z06, I want the same color, however to get one equipped the way I want may take a while.
mswaim, did they only changed the name from millenium yellow to velocity yellow or is the color a little different?
The one I saw at the Frankfurt IAA last sept. was yellow (velocity yellow)

Harry

Harry, my understanding is 2005 began with Millenium Yellow, and only at the very end of the 05 run did they switch over. I was told the change was due to the fact the first Z06's were to wear the new Velocity Yellow tintcoat so they dropped the MY and substituted the VY. Overall, there were 359 coupes painted with the VY color, or 1.3% of the entire production run.

It adds to the price, but it's worth it.

BTW - The Monterey Red Metallic is also a tintcoat and has the same deep look to it.

I hope I meet you at a light some day, cause one thing I'm good at is the Christmas tree and you have no idea how hot this V is out of the hole.


Sounds like we have a bet then. Name the track and let's do it. Your stock XLR-V vs. my stock SLK55 for pink slips. 0-60, 1/4 mile, or road race.


I almost forgot, I think it is very questionable that the SLK would even make a lap at speed. Mine seems to break every time I take it near a track.

However, on a road coarse, the XLR would win very easy.

Great, we can do it at buttonwillow then. Let's put some money on it guys.

Here's the SLK55 lapping at Pahrump, doesn't seem to be falling apart.

http://hosted.filefront.com/slk55ontrack

He came here to pick on our weakest link to make him feel better about his buyers remorse.

No remorse here. That's old Bob you're talking about. Someone who was so unsatisfied with his XLR that he had to hire a lawyer to try and force the dealer/manufacturer to take the car back.

The magazines seem to think the weakest link is the 'K-Mart interior'.

"But the instrumentation looks like it was supplied by a rental spec Impala. The switchgear is all grey and black plastic and looks/feels low rent. Even the air vents are flimsy and cheap. Look at the Mercedes Benz SLK - a two seat roadster that costs half as much - and you'll see where Cadillac needs to start thinking when it trims out the ****pit of a $100,000 car." - Motor Trend

Personally I don't agree, the SLK's interior doesn't seem any better than the XLR for the most part, but for twice the price I expect more, not less.

Again, I love the XLR-V, it's a great car. I just personally don't feel that it's worth $100,000, and I can pretty much guarantee sales will support that. Anyone want to bet that within 1-2 years XLR-Vs will be sold at invoice, or below? Care to place a bet that this $100,000 car will be worth less than $60,000 after 3 years?

If caddy could sell the XLR-V for the same price as the SLK55 which outperforms it in every aspect, they would sell them like crazy.

I was refering to the weakest link in the forum, not the car;)

In the end, you just need to enjoy what you're driving.
The V does that for me for a lot of reasons, so it's worth the 100k

Got it now. Old Bob = Weakest link with buyer's remorse.

In the end, you just need to enjoy what you're driving.
The V does that for me for a lot of reasons, so it's worth the 100k.

That's all that matters. =)

Boy, that's a vicious review even for Motor Trend.......

Boy, that's a vicious review even for Motor Trend.......

Motortrend is funny in that they seem to contradic themselves all the time. There all time favorite sports car is the Boxster. Ever seen the interior on one of those? Stilff seats, not much adjustment, hard to use, radio from hell, etc. But it has always been on thier 10 best. I bought one for my girlfriend. It was fun to drive, but you could not do it for any lenght of time. But to them it was a dream.

As for the XLR interior, I like it. It is comfortable and fairly easy to use. I am not a big fan of plastic buttons, but I don't find them offensive. Motortrend is a big group of hypicrates.

I would agree, I thought the controls were well laid out with good fit and function.

Your sure are an evil person jut like the school bullies:boxing :boxing :boxing You're absolutly correctly correct Harry, in real life these numbers don't mean squat, and I could probably beat Bob in my stock Dodge Quad Cab anyway! People that race don't buy either one of these cars, so the numbers are only for bragging rights.

Dozers been around here for a long time trying to decide whether to buy an XLR or not and finally decided to settle for the SLK. He came here to pick on our weakest link to make him feel better about his buyers remorse.:cry

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Sounds like we have a bet then. Name the track and let's do it. Your stock XLR-V vs. my stock SLK55 for pink slips. 0-60, 1/4 mile, or road race.



Great, we can do it at buttonwillow then. Let's put some money on it guys.

Here's the SLK55 lapping at Pahrump, doesn't seem to be falling apart.

http://hosted.filefront.com/slk55ontrack



No remorse here. That's old Bob you're talking about. Someone who was so unsatisfied with his XLR that he had to hire a lawyer to try and force the dealer/manufacturer to take the car back.

The magazines seem to think the weakest link is the 'K-Mart interior'.

"But the instrumentation looks like it was supplied by a rental spec Impala. The switchgear is all grey and black plastic and looks/feels low rent. Even the air vents are flimsy and cheap. Look at the Mercedes Benz SLK - a two seat roadster that costs half as much - and you'll see where Cadillac needs to start thinking when it trims out the ****pit of a $100,000 car." - Motor Trend

Personally I don't agree, the SLK's interior doesn't seem any better than the XLR for the most part, but for twice the price I expect more, not less.

Again, I love the XLR-V, it's a great car. I just personally don't feel that it's worth $100,000, and I can pretty much guarantee sales will support that. Anyone want to bet that within 1-2 years XLR-Vs will be sold at invoice, or below? Care to place a bet that this $100,000 car will be worth less than $60,000 after 3 years?

If caddy could sell the XLR-V for the same price as the SLK55 which outperforms it in every aspect, they would sell them like crazy.





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Sounds like we have a bet then. Name the track and let's do it. Your stock XLR-V vs. my stock SLK55 for pink slips. 0-60, 1/4 mile, or road race.



Great, we can do it at buttonwillow then. Let's put some money on it guys.

Here's the SLK55 lapping at Pahrump, doesn't seem to be falling apart.

http://hosted.filefront.com/slk55ontrack



No remorse here. That's old Bob you're talking about. Someone who was so unsatisfied with his XLR that he had to hire a lawyer to try and force the dealer/manufacturer to take the car back.

The magazines seem to think the weakest link is the 'K-Mart interior'.

"But the instrumentation looks like it was supplied by a rental spec Impala. The switchgear is all grey and black plastic and looks/feels low rent. Even the air vents are flimsy and cheap. Look at the Mercedes Benz SLK - a two seat roadster that costs half as much - and you'll see where Cadillac needs to start thinking when it trims out the ****pit of a $100,000 car." - Motor Trend

Personally I don't agree, the SLK's interior doesn't seem any better than the XLR for the most part, but for twice the price I expect more, not less.

Again, I love the XLR-V, it's a great car. I just personally don't feel that it's worth $100,000, and I can pretty much guarantee sales will support that. Anyone want to bet that within 1-2 years XLR-Vs will be sold at invoice, or below? Care to place a bet that this $100,000 car will be worth less than $60,000 after 3 years?

If caddy could sell the XLR-V for the same price as the SLK55 which outperforms it in every aspect, they would sell them like crazy.
Dozer, your slk is not the class of the XLR V!!!!!!!

If you just want to outperform the others, go to a Z 06 driver he shows you how a sports car runs!!!! and this for about the same price as your baby-slk is.:glol

Harry

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:iagree with you completely Bob!!!!!

Harry

:cool Found this site while surfing for a V-series spring racing jacket. Anyone have a site for racing jackets?

http://www.dragtimes.com/Cadillac-Times.html

:cool Found this site while surfing for a V-series spring racing jacket. Anyone have a site for racing jackets?

http://www.dragtimes.com/Cadillac-Times.html
13.01 @ 110.11 sounds good to me:thumbs
Harry

Dozer, your slk is not the class of the XLR V!!!!!!!

If you just want to outperform the others, go to a Z 06 driver he shows you how a sports car runs!!!! and this for about the same price as your baby-slk is.:glol


You're right, it's not in the same class as the XLR, the MB brand has far more cachet in the market than GM. Good point.

I already am a Z06 driver, and yes, I'm quite willing to show you how a real sports car runs.

http://www.dozer.com/z06

700hp supercharged C5 Z06. Although the new Z06 is the most incredible performance value I've seen from any company for $65k, and that's what should be expected from the XLR-V, it obviously fell quite short in price-performance. The C6 Z06 is quite slow compared to my Z06, there's a rather massive 200hp difference here. This puppy has a better power to weight ratio than a Ferrari Enzo. We're talking about a 0-60 about a half second faster than the C6 Z06, and the 1/4 mile a full second faster. It's done well over 200mph, and it gets 20-25mpg in daily driving, passed California smog, and is stone cold reliable. =)

A better comparison would be the SLK55 to the C6 'vert. Now, the SLK55 weighs 200lbs more than the C6 'vert. It has 45hp less, and 24ft-lbs less torque. Yet it matches the 0-60 time and 1/4 mile time of the C6 vert w/6-speed stick, with an automatic transmission, and for almost exactly the same price!

Now that's bloody amazing.

In MY2008 the SLK55 will no longer be produced. MB in their usual horsepower insanity are dropping in the all new 6.3l aluminum V8, producing 500hp and well over 500ft-lbs of torque, it will be the SLK63, supposedly for about the same price. That should hang quite nicely with the Z06 in a straight line, although I would expect the Z06 to out handle it by a large margin. Both the C6 'vert and the XLR-V wouldn't even begin to hold a candle to it.

You want to compare apples to oranges, we can do that. I'd love to see my Z06 play in the sandbox with yours. Like I said before, name the time and place and let's party! =)

I already am a Z06 driver, and yes, I'm quite willing to show you how a real sports car runs.

http://www.dozer.com/z06

I thought you sold this!
Is your offer to drive it still open?.....I'll bring my V

I traded in a Viper SRT-10 to buy the XLR-V. I have previously owned other performance cars like the Viper RT/10 and Corvette ZR-1. I ran an 11.78 ¼ mile with my stock SRT (K&N only) in June of 04 and have yet to see anyone on the VCA board post a faster time for a stock GenIII Viper. Anyone that thinks I bought this car for performance alone is really missing the boat, since it could never measure up to a Viper or Z06 in this category. This car is rated at 13.1 in the ¼, end of story.

First of all, I am a big fan of American car culture, but I have great respect for many other nameplates, domestic and foreign alike. I’ve always liked the styling of the XLR, but when I saw the V-series out at the LA auto show, I absolutely fell in love. The more aggressive hood and front fascia, coupled with the mesh grills, not to mention numerous other characteristics (including performance), just made the difference for me. Not to take anything away from the SLK55, but in my opinion, the XLR-V is a much more exclusive ride. To me, it is more elegant and distinctive and it will be rarely seen. I, personally, like the fact that is cost $100k because this is the thing that will keep it rare. Take a 06 Z06 and park it next to a Ferrari and then tell me how someone justifies an additional $100k for a car that performs less and is of no better build quality, yet people still wait in line to buy the Ferrari.

It’s important to be happy with your current ride, whatever it may be, and if you are not prepared to lose $10k+ in value per year, you really need to drive something more economical.

ok there is no way in hell the xlr v can come remotely close to beating the z06. I work for cadillac and the xlr v is an amazing car, and yes it is powerful, but nowhere near powerful enough to pull on the z06. It has a hard enough time keeping up with the c6. I own a c6 and tomorrow im going to officially end this discussion and race the xlr v. Ill keep you guys updated.

:nono :nono [/URL] Sorry but you can't end this discusion in that fashion. First of all the drivers abilities have to be considered. I followed the drag racing curcuit for many years and no one ever beat me off the line, no one. I had a secret and still have to this day. Tires are a big factor in all this.
I wouldn't for one minute think my V could wip a Z06, but I did nock a CLS55 AMG to the curb on PCH on Sunday, That's 469 ponies. I caught him in my right mirror making a run at me, dropped it in aggressive driving mode, made him wish he didn't try and then backed off at 110, and he gave me a finger.........the thumbs up :thumbs
I don't think anyone here is trying to knock big brother Vette, as for me, I'm out after MB's, the one's hanging out in the left lane that beleived the salesman that told him he got the left lane when he bought his SL500.
BOB

ok there is no way in hell the xlr v can come remotely close to beating the z06. I work for cadillac and the xlr v is an amazing car, and yes it is powerful, but nowhere near powerful enough to pull on the z06. It has a hard enough time keeping up with the c6. I own a c6 and tomorrow im going to officially end this discussion and race the xlr v. Ill keep you guys updated.





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well im doing it in about 2 hours.....and as far as "drivers ability" is concerned all you have to do is hold the pedal down and thats it, where as i have to shift gears, so if anything the xlr-v has the advantage on me with that. But im extremely confident i can take it, which will ultimately lead to the xlr-v is NOT capable of comming close to challenging the z06.

Are we going to have to take your word for this or are you going to post some speed trials
Push pedal down and steer? Haven't done much proffesional racing I can see. I'll take you off the line 10 out of 10 times.
BTW what happened to the big rac off?
annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd what kind of test are you doing? 0 to 60 or 1/4 mile.
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well im doing it in about 2 hours.....and as far as "drivers ability" is concerned all you have to do is hold the pedal down and thats it, where as i have to shift gears, so if anything the xlr-v has the advantage on me with that. But im extremely confident i can take it, which will ultimately lead to the xlr-v is NOT capable of comming close to challenging the z06.





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