: GM prices XLR-V!! (sit down before you read)
Cadillac Slaps $100,000 Tag on XLR-V
Date Posted 10-04-2005
DETROIT — Cadillac's new XLR-V, the performance variant of the hardtop roadster, will carry a manufacturer's suggested retail price of $100,000 when it arrives in showrooms later this year. The companion STS-V sedan will be priced at about $77,000.
The XLR-V is fitted with a supercharged, 4.4-liter version of General Motors' Northstar V8. The engine makes 440 horsepower and drives the rear wheels through a new six-speed automatic with manual-shift capability. Cadillac claims 0-to-60-mph acceleration in fewer than 5 seconds.
Also due this fall is the STS-V, which shares the supercharged, 4.4-liter unit and six-speed gearbox. Like the XLR-V, the high-performance sedan gets larger wheels and tires, along with the appropriate suspension modifications.
In a related move, GM announced that 49-year-old Bob Kruse will replace Mark Reuss, 42, as head of the company's performance division, which is responsible for development of the V-Series Cadillacs, among other goodies. Kruse retains his title as executive director of North America vehicle integration, while Reuss shifts to executive director of vehicle systems.
What this means to you: For about $25,000 less than the price of a Mercedes SL55 AMG, you can drive a 440-hp Cadillac roadster.
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=107463
mswaim 10-06-2005, 09:39 AM And that doesn't include the inevitable dealer pack.
Quixotic 10-06-2005, 03:41 PM So much for all of the previous speculation...
standby 10-06-2005, 06:06 PM Knocked me out of the box with that price. If this car didn't have the problems it has, maybe it would be worth it. So much for all of the previous speculation...
jackewells 10-07-2005, 09:02 PM Supercharger is not worth this extra $$$ :flag
standby 10-08-2005, 12:29 AM Gm just made another Allante.....What in the world are they thinking?Supercharger is not worth this extra $$$ :flag
BUDSVET 10-08-2005, 08:48 AM will keep the 05 and be quite happy with my new Z06-C6 when it comes in. :jester :flag :flag
Mr XLR 10-08-2005, 10:44 AM The official pricing has been announced! The XLR-V will have an introductory price of $100,000.00 including destination and gas guzzler tax. For the complete release on the XLR-V pricing, simply go to:
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.CadillacXLR-V.com)
Thank You
Allen
standby 10-08-2005, 11:53 AM $24 thousand for a supercharger, chrome grille's, a redesigned hood, more spokes in the bigger wheels and a suede insert which will not wear well, less ACC?
I agree with Jack, it's outrageous.
Supercharger is not worth this extra $$$ :flag
harrysxlr 10-08-2005, 12:09 PM $24 thousand for a supercharger, chrome grille's, a redesigned hood, more spokes in the bigger wheels and a suede insert which will not wear well, less ACC?
I agree with Jack, it's outrageous.
You are right Bob,
well, at first I got my dream machine and as you know it`s almost trouble free.
I´ve had two times the "check engine " light on and one time "top not secure"
so alltogether almost NO PROBLEM.
Hans
Sparky 10-08-2005, 02:19 PM GM does not learn from their mistakes. Remember the Corvette ZR-1, they did the same thing in pricing that model, and we all know what happened with the ZR-1.
Cadillac should ask Lexus how to build and market cars.
- First design and build reliable cars of high quality
- Establish great customer service from dealers and manufacturer
- Price the car to establish great value compared to the competition
- Do the above for years until the brand is considered the standard of the world
Then Cadillac may consider High End Pricing!
Just my opinion.
jackewells 10-08-2005, 02:44 PM Just when it looked like Cadillac was on the right track with the XLR,CTS & STS, all priced properly (possible exception the CTS V) somebody at Cadillac pulls a blunder like this. It's like putting the first hole in the bottom of your boat. :flag
Julie 10-08-2005, 03:08 PM You're right. If I cancel my order on the XLR-V, I can get another new XLR in the color I really want, like Xenon blue, and save $20,000 or so. For the $100K price, they should at least offer more colors. And do I need 120 more HP to run errands?
upstate 10-08-2005, 05:06 PM I think you hit nail on the head. 20K more for 120HP to run around town. I'd first take a standard XLR and for 10K you could provide a lot of engine mods to make you smile. I bet the resale wouldn't be that far off the V.
standby 10-08-2005, 07:25 PM Well Allen,
I have read your sales pitch on your web site and if you think we people in the range of $76,000 to $82,000 are not happy with Gm for not coming to our rescue when things go wrong, Imagine the "elite luxury performance buyers whose discriminating tastes may require an additional level of service", will feel when their V's start faltering and nothing is done by Gm to accommodate these high end buyers. http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/23/23_11_56.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm414YYUS)
Thank You,
Bob
The official pricing has been announced! The XLR-V will have an introductory price of $100,000.00 including destination and gas guzzler tax. For the complete release on the XLR-V pricing, simply go to:
www.CadillacXLR-V.com (http://www.cadillacxlr-v.com/)
Thank You
Allen
mswaim 10-09-2005, 09:30 AM In the grand scheme of things, $100,000 for the "V" is not bad at all, considering all the upgrades. It's not just a S/C'ed version, it is an entirely new engine platform, coupled with upgrades to dozens of components. I always figured the price would come in around $100k, however 6 months ago if you floated that thought around here a certain member would have attacked you. Amazing how that same member is now are telling everyone they will cancel their "V" order. I guess we know someone's bottom line on vehicles. Personally we are waiting to see if one can be had without a huge dealer pack, I don't mind paying for a car, I do mind paying for two cars and only getting one.........
Like I've always said, we liked the XLR, however the one we had did not like us. After GM agreed to buy it back, we bought the C6 just to keep us happy until either the Z06 was ready or the XLR-V. Now we will just have to see which one the local dealers decide to sell closest to MSRP.
Julie 10-09-2005, 11:50 AM Mswaim, I really hope you're not referring to me. I would never attack anyone! I value the opinions of other XLR owners. I was told by my dealer that he was under the impression (about 6 months ago) that the Cadillac people were hinting at a lower price, so I passed that info along. I too, had read about a year ago that the price would probably be around $100 K.
I thought that was the point of this forum, and that other members may like to hear what was floating around. Why shouldn't a buyer analyze the whole package before signing on the dotted line? This forum is loaded with info, and it makes sense to learn from it.
standby 10-09-2005, 12:52 PM No Julie,
This is not an attack on you, it's just Mswaim, taking advantage to attack me at every point of the compass..........I'm not the least bit surprised he attacked how much money I could spend. This has nothing to do with what I can afford. I could buy two V's and get the pink slips, but as I said, I don't believe this new vehicle is worth the money and so do a lot of other members. As you, I think we are entitled to our opinion without prejudice and shouldn't have to be bashed by a person that has already gotten his buy back and is happy as a clam to get out from under his XLR.:flag
Bob
Mswaim, I really hope you're not referring to me. I would never attack anyone!
mswaim 10-09-2005, 01:55 PM No Julie, it was not an attack on you. As you know the subject of actual "V" pricing has led to much speculation this year. Some members believing the price would exceed $100k and others feeling it would be less. Personally I could care less.
what I do like though is the reaction I am guaranteed by a certain member to any reference that may indicate he is wrong or otherwise miss-informed. Kinda reminds you of Ivan Pavlov's drooling dog..................
Julie 10-09-2005, 06:09 PM It's Troy's birthday today, let's just all try to get along. Happy Birthday, Troy!
mswaim 10-09-2005, 11:05 PM Happy Birthday Troy. Were leaving in the morning to spend a week at our place in Mexico, we will be sure and enjoy a glass of wine in your honor as we watch the sun set. :cheers
1_XLR 10-11-2005, 02:21 PM I don't understand why some are so shocked by the 100k price tag.
the difference in the CTS and the CTS-V is 20K....that puts the XLR-V at 97K
If you looked at it in percentages it would put the XLR-V at 127K!
and for only 400-500 cars a year, they could probably get that much
I too was enjoying the 85K rumors, but did anyone really think all this extra would come for only $8000?...... 100K is realistic.
consider the competing models, it's still less than a SL-500
jackewells 10-11-2005, 07:10 PM Sure....They will probably sell, but $23000 for a supercharger and very little else is no bargain :flag
Simple pricing prcing goof in my opinion. $94,999 or $97,999 sounds and looks a lot better than $100,000.
standby 10-11-2005, 11:48 PM xlr,
That figure is plain and simple arrogance. We where the test pilots for the 04 and 05 and this is the way they treat us? Dig yourself a nice big hole next to the Allante...........GM. Yea, you'll sell them to the people that money means nothing to and see how they like being towed in every week..
Simple pricing prcing goof in my opinion. $94,999 or $97,999 sounds and looks a lot better than $100,000.
standby 10-11-2005, 11:50 PM You have my vote Jack. The word for Gm today is "Arrogance"Supercharger is not worth this extra $$$ :flag
I dont understand why it is arrogance? The sticker on the XLR is 77k so I never really thought it would be less than 10K over that otherwise it would kill the base model.
I personally thought it would be high 80's based on the great price for the Z06 but maybe when they see everyone lined up to pay 10k over sticker on that car the figured it was priced to cheap?
I personally dont think they will be lined up for 100K but I do think there will be a lot sold when dealers start dealing in the high 80/90k
standby 10-12-2005, 06:19 PM Well that's just my word for taking the price higher than it needs to be but considering R&D and only 250 V's being made this year, it will get them back there R&D.
Bob
I dont understand why it is arrogance? The sticker on the XLR is 77k so I never really thought it would be less than 10K over that otherwise it would kill the base model.
I personally thought it would be high 80's based on the great price for the Z06 but maybe when they see everyone lined up to pay 10k over sticker on that car the figured it was priced to cheap?
I personally dont think they will be lined up for 100K but I do think there will be a lot sold when dealers start dealing in the high 80/90k
aviator 10-12-2005, 08:58 PM Logically, an $86K XLR-V would probably kill the sales of its $76K predecessor.
$100K (a "hunyun" in aviator-speak) does not surprise me. I do love our Xenon Blue, and now have decided to drive it a while longer....unless they want to make me a deal.
BTW - at my company a hunyun is a standard unit of measure.
standby 10-12-2005, 09:58 PM I shall at this point disagree with Lindburgh here. They have made many cars that where loaded and some that where lucky to have a heater and this did not stop the masses from choosing based on what they could afford, "o great one in the sky." :glol:glol :glol .....................................No, not that great one.:nono Logically, an $86K XLR-V would probably kill the sales of its $76K predecessor.
$100K (a "hunyun" in aviator-speak) does not surprise me. I do love our Xenon Blue, and now have decided to drive it a while longer....unless they want to make me a deal.
BTW - at my company a hunyun is a standard unit of measure.
jlmartin99 10-14-2005, 07:13 AM Greetings
I am new to the discussion, but here goes. Cadillac's XLR V $100,000 price tag compares well to MB's SL600 with simular option list. I would say the pricing is about right. From my estimate the XLR V, is priced $35-40K less than a like optioned SL600. Using MB's website I come up with a price of $139,935. That said I am very interested in seeing this car in person. Besides the performance, I am looking for improvements over the XLR when it comes to interior refinement. Well thats my view.
JLM
standby 10-14-2005, 11:26 AM Welcome,
Notably I'm one of the most out spoken on the forum and I just have one question:..................While driving an XLR, have you ever had your butt kicked so bad by an SL600 that you slide down in the seat so know one could see you? Also a SL600 will still kick our new V's butt. I can't see the irrelevance between the two cars. These XLR's are new baby's on the market and need to have the kinks worked out before extracting that kind of money out of the public. Top of the line MB's can stand on their merit and have a hellava name for themselves.
Greetings
I am new to the discussion, but here goes. Cadillac's XLR V $100,000 price tag compares well to MB's SL600 with simular option list. I would say the pricing is about right. From my estimate the XLR V, is priced $35-40K less than a like optioned SL600. Using MB's website I come up with a price of $139,935. That said I am very interested in seeing this car in person. Besides the performance, I am looking for improvements over the XLR when it comes to interior refinement. Well thats my view.
JLM
harrysxlr 10-14-2005, 12:40 PM Welcome,
Notably I'm one of the most out spoken on the forum and I just have one question:..................While driving an XLR, have you ever had your butt kicked so bad by an SL600 that you slide down in the seat so know one could see you? Also a SL600 will still kick our new V's butt. I can't see the irrelevance between the two cars. These XLR's are new baby's on the market and need to have the kinks worked out before extracting that kind of money out of the public. Top of the line MB's can stand on their merit and have a hellava name for themselves.
Hi Bob, you are right with the SL 600 or SL 65 AMG :iagree but the regular SL 500 can hold up with my XLR. I´ve had a couple of runs with them on the autobahn but my car was always able to show them my taillights. :lol
Have a nice weekend :cheers
Hans
Sparky 10-14-2005, 08:51 PM Greetings
I am new to the discussion, but here goes. Cadillac's XLR V $100,000 price tag compares well to MB's SL600 with simular option list. I would say the pricing is about right. From my estimate the XLR V, is priced $35-40K less than a like optioned SL600. Using MB's website I come up with a price of $139,935. That said I am very interested in seeing this car in person. Besides the performance, I am looking for improvements over the XLR when it comes to interior refinement. Well thats my view.
JLM
The XLR-V is not comparable to the SL600. The SL600 has a V12. The SL55 is the car to compare, it has the supercharged V8.
jackewells 10-14-2005, 09:22 PM I am starting to get used to the $100,000 price tag for the V....If it is true that they will make only 250, it probably will still be the car to purchase.
Don't cancel your order Bob :flag
standby 10-14-2005, 09:46 PM I guess I should buy it and have it delivered by horse carriages limited and tack on $10,000 after my expenses and put it on E-bay. What you say to that Jack? Everyone else makes money on these vehicles why not me? BTW, I'm changing the color to Platinum and it won't be in until March and I'm second on the list.http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_4.gif (http://www.smileycentral.com/?partner=ZSzeb001_ZNxdm414YYUS) Maybe that will change since I'm changing color.
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I am starting to get used to the $100,000 price tag for the V....If it is true that they will make only 250, it probably will still be the car to purchase.
Don't cancel your order Bob :flag
rick1827 12-13-2005, 11:47 AM GM does not learn from their mistakes. Remember the Corvette ZR-1, they did the same thing in pricing that model, and we all know what happened with the ZR-1.
Cadillac should ask Lexus how to build and market cars.
- First design and build reliable cars of high quality
- Establish great customer service from dealers and manufacturer
- Price the car to establish great value compared to the competition
- Do the above for years until the brand is considered the standard of the world
Then Cadillac may consider High End Pricing!
Just my opinion.
I find it funny that you compare the XLR to Lexus. Have you read any of the reviews of thier Luxury Sport Convertible? Is so, you know that it is a joke of a car and is not selling well. Think before you write.
Sparky 12-16-2005, 10:18 PM I find it funny that you compare the XLR to Lexus. Have you read any of the reviews of thier Luxury Sport Convertible? Is so, you know that it is a joke of a car and is not selling well. Think before you write.
“Think before you write” ?
Before making your snide remarks, you should take your own advice!
My post did not compare the XLR to the Lexus Luxury Sport Convertible. I don’t even like that car. I was addressing Cadillac’s (GM’s) business model versus Lexus (Toyota’s) business model as I perceive it. As I stated, my opinion, you don’t have to agree with it!
Try to understand what you read before making your smartass remarks.
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“Think before you write” ?
Before making your snide remarks, you should take your own advice!
My post did not compare the XLR to the Lexus Luxury Sport Convertible. I don’t even like that car. I was addressing Cadillac’s (GM’s) business model versus Lexus (Toyota’s) business model as I perceive it. As I stated, my opinion, you don’t have to agree with it!
Try to understand what you read before making your smartass remarks.
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standby 01-23-2006, 05:03 PM Just what the hell are you challenging everything people say on this site for? Today is wrong?
"today" is wrong!
Troy Roberts 01-23-2006, 06:03 PM standby - I deleted the post(s) you are refering to. It appears to be done by an automated bot that picks a word, and sometimes a username, from prior posts and makes another post. The objective is to promote the links in the spam posts. Mostly, it's an attempt to get good placement in the search engines vs. actually getting anyone here to go to those sites.
standby - I deleted the post(s) you are refering to. It appears to be done by an automated bot that picks a word, and sometimes a username, from prior posts and makes another post. The objective is to promote the links in the spam posts. Mostly, it's an attempt to get good placement in the search engines vs. actually getting anyone here to go to those sites.
That's actually interesting information. Thanks Troy!
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